Martinez wanted 6/7 new signings - and why - squad and age

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...new-signings-make-Everton-European-force.html 28 March 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...summer-signings-help-Everton-finish-four.html 27 April 2014

In the above articles, Martinez said the following:

'We haven’t budgeted for players yet,’ said Martinez. ‘Where we finish in the league will be a big factor in that. Whether we are in Europe or not is a big factor. We’ve got money but I didn’t want to spend it in January. That was clear. I didn’t think spending in January was the right thing to do.
‘If we get in Europe I think that makes a difference of six players. I always found you can work on a squad of 21 players in the league and for domestic competitions. You need around 27 players plus keepers for Europe. It doesn’t have to be 27 senior players, it can be young players too, but 27.

'If you get into the Champions League you can look for your number one choice. If not, you’re going to number four, five, six and maybe seven or eight sometimes. But we have got money and the money is there to be spent. I prefer to work in that way, to stockpile for the summer. Use short-term players and loans and create a big amount of money.’

'It’s not about improving the squad, it’s about increasing it,’ said Martinez. ‘When you are playing in Europe you need six or seven new players. That’s the reality and we will do that. I get excited about bringing new players in. You need fresh blood'

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We have to name a 25 player squad aside from those 21 or under on September 1st 2014. It's worth noting that Shane Duffy and Francisco Junior will not be classed as 21 or under, unlike at the beginning of last season.

We have 19 senior first-team players currently, (including Junior and Duffy) which are not 21 or under. It is going to be very interesting if Duffy and Junior are chosen to be part of the 25 named squad come September 1st.

My point (if I had one) was mainly about that. Martinez said it's not about improving the squad it's about increasing it. The 21 or under players don't count, but if we count every single player in the squad we own we have 19 players 22 or over on September 1st 2014. I believe this is where his '6/7' signings remarks comes from. Him wanting to max out his squad for Europe plus players 21 or under.

If we only have £20-£30M to spend, what are we to do? We absolutely cannot spend a big portion of it on one player (i.e. Lukaku). Again we're in a need to loan or get free transfers position if we're to increase the numbers in our squad for the coming season.

2 domestic season-long loans and unlimited loans from abroad. Was it ever likely that we'd spend big on Lukaku, or were we as fans naïve and, perhaps duped, into thinking things would be different?

I predict many many loans and many cheap signings, and no big transfer fee signings at all.
 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...new-signings-make-Everton-European-force.html 28 March 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...summer-signings-help-Everton-finish-four.html 27 April 2014

In the above articles, Martinez said the following:

'We haven’t budgeted for players yet,’ said Martinez. ‘Where we finish in the league will be a big factor in that. Whether we are in Europe or not is a big factor. We’ve got money but I didn’t want to spend it in January. That was clear. I didn’t think spending in January was the right thing to do.
‘If we get in Europe I think that makes a difference of six players. I always found you can work on a squad of 21 players in the league and for domestic competitions. You need around 27 players plus keepers for Europe. It doesn’t have to be 27 senior players, it can be young players too, but 27.

'If you get into the Champions League you can look for your number one choice. If not, you’re going to number four, five, six and maybe seven or eight sometimes. But we have got money and the money is there to be spent. I prefer to work in that way, to stockpile for the summer. Use short-term players and loans and create a big amount of money.’

'It’s not about improving the squad, it’s about increasing it,’ said Martinez. ‘When you are playing in Europe you need six or seven new players. That’s the reality and we will do that. I get excited about bringing new players in. You need fresh blood'

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We have to name a 25 player squad aside from those 21 or under on September 1st 2014. It's worth noting that Shane Duffy and Francisco Junior will not be classed as 21 or under, unlike at the beginning of last season.

We have 19 senior first-team players currently, (including Junior and Duffy) which are not 21 or under. It is going to be very interesting if Duffy and Junior are chosen to be part of the 25 named squad come September 1st.

My point (if I had one) was mainly about that. Martinez said it's not about improving the squad it's about increasing it. The 21 or under players don't count, but if we count every single player in the squad we own we have 19 players 22 or over on September 1st 2014. I believe this is where his '6/7' signings remarks comes from. Him wanting to max out his squad for Europe plus players 21 or under.

If we only have £20-£30M to spend, what are we to do? We absolutely cannot spend a big portion of it on one player (i.e. Lukaku). Again we're in a need to loan or get free transfers position if we're to increase the numbers in our squad for the coming season.

2 domestic season-long loans and unlimited loans from abroad. Was it ever likely that we'd spend big on Lukaku, or were we as fans naïve and, perhaps duped, into thinking things would be different?

I predict many many loans and many cheap signings, and no big transfer fee signings at all.

Answered your own question there mate.
 

Junior.. Lol

Anyway my point on this is simple the squad needs a refresh and improvement. Too many players in their 30's who arnt getting any better

Lack of qualify upfront hurt us last season and we hurt us again especially without lukaku and dela as things stand.

Does annoy me when the other half are already spending big on good young players and all we have to show for it is nothing as yet.

Hear it every year we need 6/7 players but we usually get one or two in which replace two out haha, and then 3 loans. Come on everton show some ambition this year for once
 
I don't know what my point was, but I hope I made one in the end, but I find it creepy and unsettling I posted it and as soon I clicked refresh there was already a reply from Bryan. Can anyone confirm if he was reading my mind as I was creating the post and how many seconds it was before he replied with his riposte? I guess my point was Martinez wants a 25 player squad of 22 year olds+ plus under 21s for his squad to give EFC our best chance to do well next season considering Europe, and that it is highly unlikely that we will sign a player for a big fee in the summer given how much we probably have to spend. If we're to increase it to 25 players from 19 players 22 or over I doubt we can spend £24m on Lukaku.
 

I don't know what my point was, but I hope I made one in the end, but I find it creepy and unsettling I posted it and as soon I clicked refresh there was already a reply from Bryan. Can anyone confirm if he was reading my mind as I was creating the post and how many seconds it was before he replied with his riposte? I guess my point was Martinez wants a 25 player squad of 22 year olds+ plus under 21s for his squad to give EFC our best chance to do well next season considering Europe, and that it is highly unlikely that we will sign a player for a big fee in the summer given how much we probably have to spend. If we're to increase it to 25 players from 19 players 22 or over I doubt we can spend £24m on Lukaku.

Whats a "big fee" ?

Its all relative.

What matters is how the signing contributes to the team.

£10million on a good player who exceeds expectations

Is better than £20million on a player that doesn't
 
I don't know what my point was, but I hope I made one in the end, but I find it creepy and unsettling I posted it and as soon I clicked refresh there was already a reply from Bryan. Can anyone confirm if he was reading my mind as I was creating the post and how many seconds it was before he replied with his riposte? I guess my point was Martinez wants a 25 player squad of 22 year olds+ plus under 21s for his squad to give EFC our best chance to do well next season considering Europe, and that it is highly unlikely that we will sign a player for a big fee in the summer given how much we probably have to spend. If we're to increase it to 25 players from 19 players 22 or over I doubt we can spend £24m on Lukaku.

I've seen more creepy and unsettling posts on these forum's.

http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/the-arouna-kone-fanboy-thread.67580/page-10#post-2820166

ijjysmith I am in love with u. ur sexy and have been a big part of my life these last few days. sorry if u that pisses u off. but hell. ur hella cool
 
25 man squad?

Easy

Gk : Howard, Robles, Taudul
DF : Coleman, Hibbert, Baines, Oviedo, Jags, Distin, Stones, Altaftraccaz, Browning, Duffy, Garbutt
MF : Barkley, Gibson, McCarthy, Osman, Naismith, Mirallas, Pienaar, McGready, Kennedy, Ledson, Lundstram,
ST : Kone, McAleny, Long, Hope
 

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