Martinez OUT. There i said it. (end of the season of course).

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What has gone wrong ?

  • Manager

    Votes: 100 27.2%

  • Players

    Votes: 45 12.2%

  • Its that old second season syndrome

    Votes: 102 27.7%

  • Nothing - Its bobbys suprise formula to win the europa and enter the CL

    Votes: 34 9.2%

  • Cheese on Knee Jerk Toast

    Votes: 87 23.6%
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    368
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1966efc said:
So no question of a large signing on fee?
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Obviously there'll be a signing on fee, like there is with any transfer.

Can't see it being huge - he hasn't got the enormous profile that usually leads to big inflation on a Bosman. Plus he's by all accounts made it pretty clear that his aim is to come here.
 

Dymak said:
I'd normally agree, but the Villa fans viewpoint is that he is absolutely woeful, and they can't wait to get rid of him, they certainly won't be losing any sleep about losing him. Couple that with the fact that we are supposed to be a big club that is challenging for honours and you can see why the purchasing of Cleverley will not go down well.
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Is it? Every Villa fan I've spoken to has said he's been one of their only players who has performed at anything approaching an acceptable level.
 
Dymak said:
I'd normally agree, but the Villa fans viewpoint is that he is absolutely woeful, and they can't wait to get rid of him, they certainly won't be losing any sleep about losing him. Couple that with the fact that we are supposed to be a big club that is challenging for honours and you can see why the purchasing of Cleverley will not go down well.
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More [Poor language removed] like Cleverley means more of this for me...


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Dymak said:
I'd normally agree, but the Villa fans viewpoint is that he is absolutely woeful, and they can't wait to get rid of him, they certainly won't be losing any sleep about losing him. Couple that with the fact that we are supposed to be a big club that is challenging for honours and you can see why the purchasing of Cleverley will not go down well.
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We're not though

Only a Everton fan would delude themselves into thinking that

We are a mid table filler club and have been for some time
 

1966efc said:
So no question of a large signing on fee?
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Not sure about large but yeah all free transfers get a signing on fee so no matter who it's is coming in for "free" they want a golden hello.

The alternative to this is to pay a transfer fee and then on top of that pay a signing on fee as standard.
 
If it's genuinely free / dirt cheap in the PL, then it probably isn't worth touching unless the long term plan is yet more mediocrity.
 

Del said:
We're not though

Only a Everton fan would delude themselves into thinking that

We are a mid table filler club and have been for some time
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I'm aware of the reality, and I get lambasted every time I mention our reality as a mid-table also-ran, but we are at least SUPPOSED to be a big club, and we are SUPPOSED to have ambitions of getting into the top four.

Those ambitions seem to be disappearing under Martninez, mid-table mediocrity seems to be the accepted level of ambition at the moment.
 

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