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Zatara said:
I trust Martinez to spend money wisely...so if any dramas next season we have improved the squad.

On the defensive side we currently have this:


Gk - Robles
LB -- Baines / Oviedo / Garbutt
LCB -- Mori / Galloway
RCB -- Stones / Jagielka / Browning / Pennington
RB -- Coleman
DM -- Barry
DM -- McCarthy

if it was me i would send all the kids on loan next season.

Id have Stones playing every game at RCB and bringing the ball out of defence and / passing it to the wingers or centrally. He would need to have players able to cover for him hence Koulibaly the 6'3 monster coming in at right back but able to move across (he can also bring the ball out too when needed).

Id be quite happy with Manolas (linked last week) as hes very solid defensively and a real leader. He would be ideal alongside Stones and allow us to keep with Baines/Oviedo for another season as he would "protect them".

Add in a keeper:

GK-- Rico (Ter Stegen/Leno) / Robles
LB -- Baines / Oviedo
LCB -- Manolas / Mori
RCB -- Stones / Jagielka
RB -- Koulibaly / Coleman

We then have Barry and McCarthy basically doing one mans job. We would need to sign a top DM/Pivot/ Busquets-lite.

Then 'on paper' at least i would be very confident defensively for next season. What have we really done here, signed a necessary keeper + 2 defenders and a DM.

Not wholesale changes but additions of pure quality.

This is what i HOPE martinez does in the summer.

If not then i would be concerned really and look for Tuchel to come in or i wouldnt discount Mourinho but it would be high risk for us and his mandate would need to be to create a legacy not just a 3 year plan.
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you could have a back line of
Buffon
Alves, Pique,Ramos,Lahn
and soft arse wouldn't know how to stop us conceding goals,its his style of play as much as the players he has been found out, unless he changes you can bring in who ever you like, basic fact of life all his teams concede goals
 

bluestevon said:
Royle is back at the club as part of the youth development system Zat - so pretty sure that the players will know him very well

Also as for the senior players not knowing anythign he did as a amnager - that place next to the enpty spot on the stairs at FF waiting for the next trophy pic that Martinez did - well next to that space will be a nice big framed picture of Royle winning the last trophy for this club

As an interim manager till a new one comes in during the summer - he'd be ideal
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Havent we only got 8 league games left + max 2 cup games?

Can you honestly realistically see Moshiri firing Martinez and appointing Royle?

No chance. He will wait till the end of the season...slow and steady progress and no sudden changes.most likely he will weigh up the season,speak with martinez and determine the risk /reward of changing manager or to wait and see next season.
 
The media need to see that Evertonians aren't happy with this bloke.

2/3rds of the fanbase (if this site is a decent barometer) want him replaced

The timing is irrelevant
 
When the season has finished and you analyse actual position against expected position then Leicester will be top and we will be bottom. Most under performing and worst manager in the league on this basis.
 
chazzle_dazzle said:
Manolas and Koulibaly would cost upwards of £60 million. Chelsea being linked with Manolas today for £32 million. I know we have a bit of money to player with now, but we are not spending £32 million on a defender, let alone 2.

Sos @Woolly Blue just seen your message!

I am still surprised we haven't seen anything, when did the graffiti appear least season? Feb?
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Has Martinez ever had a defender work under hi for more than 1 season and that defender hasn't started to comit miltiple mistakes and erros as well?

Honestly doesn't matter who the hell we have playing cb we will be porous
 

Don't know wby people are saying its Kopite behaviour to have a Martinez out banner,we have done it for years when wanting to get shut of a manager,along with putting it on walls and garage doors,and throwing cushions from the main stand, it's the Everton way.
 
PhilM said:
Our League Cup route went along the lines of Barnsley (L1), Reading (C), Norwich (PL), Boro (C) and finally dumped out by Citeh (PL).

That's two Premier League opposition out of five opponents, and one of those is currently residing just above the relegation zone.

Our FA Cup run is a slightly more diverse due to the fact that we have faced two minnows from League 2 and then two Premier League teams.

That's five lower league opposition out of our nine opponents. Of course I'm happy about our runs, but when analysed it paints a specific picture.

As you rightly mention, when forced to face opponents of our own calibre across the entirety of the season we've really seen up to the task.

Hence why I've said all along that while winning the FA Cup would be delightful, it wouldn't do enough to show he's up to the task overall.
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That's what makes some of the Martinez on here just laughable.

If the measure if success if a manager is the cup runs rather than the league, then we may as well take comfort in beating these lower league teams, be playing them much more in the future.
 
Zatara said:
I trust Martinez to spend money wisely...so if any dramas next season we have improved the squad.

On the defensive side we currently have this:


Gk - Robles
LB -- Baines / Oviedo / Garbutt
LCB -- Mori / Galloway
RCB -- Stones / Jagielka / Browning / Pennington
RB -- Coleman
DM -- Barry
DM -- McCarthy

if it was me i would send all the kids on loan next season.

Id have Stones playing every game at RCB and bringing the ball out of defence and / passing it to the wingers or centrally. He would need to have players able to cover for him hence Koulibaly the 6'3 monster coming in at right back but able to move across (he can also bring the ball out too when needed).

Id be quite happy with Manolas (linked last week) as hes very solid defensively and a real leader. He would be ideal alongside Stones and allow us to keep with Baines/Oviedo for another season as he would "protect them".

Add in a keeper:

GK-- Rico (Ter Stegen/Leno) / Robles
LB -- Baines / Oviedo
LCB -- Manolas / Mori
RCB -- Stones / Jagielka
RB -- Koulibaly / Coleman

We then have Barry and McCarthy basically doing one mans job. We would need to sign a top DM/Pivot/ Busquets-lite.

Then 'on paper' at least i would be very confident defensively for next season. What have we really done here, signed a necessary keeper + 2 defenders and a DM.

Not wholesale changes but additions of pure quality.

This is what i HOPE martinez does in the summer.

If not then i would be concerned really and look for Tuchel to come in or i wouldnt discount Mourinho but it would be high risk for us and his mandate would need to be to create a legacy not just a 3 year plan.
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Mate youre working your squads in the wrong thread.
 
Zatara said:
Havent we only got 8 league games left + max 2 cup games?

Can you honestly realistically see Moshiri firing Martinez and appointing Royle?

No chance. He will wait till the end of the season...slow and steady progress and no sudden changes.most likely he will weigh up the season,speak with martinez and determine the risk /reward of changing manager or to wait and see next season.
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IF the new owner wants to actually win something and prepare for next seaosn now then yes mate, get shut of martinez tomorrow, why keep a manager on in a job when he has proven he isn't up to it

right now the crowd have turned completely on him, and the players will feel that everty single lame performance now, not exactly going to be positive getting them to stay after that

He doesn't need to speak to Martinez mate, all he needs to do is watch 5-6 of our games and listen to the manger speaking before and after each one to form the opinion he has lost it...
 
bluestevon said:
Cleverley, Kone - by far the most used players on the left wing this season mate - who brought both of them into the club specifically it seems to play that position? By the looks of it who also targetd Yarmolenko to play their - a bloke who has played his entire career and excelled on the right wing?

The 3 DM's we have played this season - playing 2 of them every game to do 1 mans job as you said - who bought all 3 of them?

Why on earth do you have any belief that martinez has any ability at creating a cohesive team?

Yup has he bought some very good players - no doubt at all about that - is he getting the best out of any signle player at this club right now or for a long time - don't think you can argue that he is with any real sense of being right
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Or look at it another way

Kone £5mil
Cleverley Free
Barry Free
Besic £2.5mil rising to £4mil
McCarthy £13mil

For 5 players there which is just north of £20mil combined we really need a DM "new busquets" CM with a goal threat and a winger with the same....

I think he has done very well and i would trust him to bring in the right players...but contrary to alot of people saying best squad etc i think we need half a team worth of quality.
 

Zatara said:
Or look at it another way

Kone £5mil
Cleverley Free
Barry Free
Besic £2.5mil rising to £4mil
McCarthy £13mil

For 5 players there which is just north of £20mil combined we really need a DM "new busquets" CM with a goal threat and a winger with the same....

I think he has done very well and i would trust him to bring in the right players...but contrary to alot of people saying best squad etc i think we need half a team worth of quality.
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Banners though Zat ... banners.
 

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