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One thing I can say for him is that he didn't feel the need to go on an all-expenses-paid jolly to Dubai with his massively underperforming squad. The highlight of our sad season so far.
 
Big Fat Sam said:
Exactly. Knew the job was too much, too difficult, was a foregone conclusion, so left to give the club as much time as possible to sort themselves out. Great guy.
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would say what wagner did was cowardly to be honest, knew staying up was near on impossible given their limitations so instead of trying till he end he give up and let someone else get the titled of a relegated manager
 

ForeverBlue92 said:
I just cant sit quiet and let this fella destroy our club mate. People will understand once the tide of public opinion see's Mosh wield the axe and we can look forward to some competitive football next season under a new coach.

We all need to do our bit. :pint2:
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Sit back and do nothing? That's EXACTLY what you're doing. That and boring us to tears with your repetition.
 
matty1878 said:
This... he deserves time and we will be better for it.
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On what basis does he deserve time? I cannot think of a simple reason other than the law of averages suggest a team with our wage bill should soon get better results. But that ignores the guy had zero track record to be given this job and has shown zero ability to carry out the job to any form of reasonable manner.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
I just cant sit quiet and let this fella destroy our club mate. People will understand once the tide of public opinion see's Mosh wield the axe and we can look forward to some competitive football next season under a new coach.

We all need to do our bit. :pint2:
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Sitting on your computer and complaining on the internet is different from not doing anything how exactly? The only thing youre doing is annoying us with the same posts again and again. Go bug Silva if you dont like him, and leave us be.
 

Something a little different than people with multiple multis saying sack the manager every 5 minutes.


A clear pattern emerges. Everton are extremely direct in attack, particularly Walcott and Sigurdsson, with very few interchanges between the players. When a player gets the ball they go directly for goal or try to play another player in, This is not a group concerned with exchanging passes or recycling possession.

In fact we can see this by looking where they each rank among the 42 other attacking midfielders in the proportion of forward passes in the final third:

Bernard: 15/42

Sigurdsson: 1/42

Walcott: 13/42



Sigurdsson is a particularly extreme example, topping the comparison chart for the proportion of passes that go forwards when in the final third but also being almost bottom for the volume. In summary he just doesn’t get involved in traditional midfield build up at all. And neither does Theo Walcott or Bernard.

The question is whether this is a deliberate tactical ploy, or simply a case of incompatible players failing to link up.

If we compare Everton with Wolverhampton Wanderers we see similar numbers in build up play, with Neves and Moutinho profiling similarly to Gomes and Gana. However when the 32 outfield strikers with over 1000 minutes on the pitch are sorted by expected open play assists per 90 minutes Raul Jimenez (3rd) and Diogo Jota (7th) appear a long way before Calvert-Lewin (27th), Cenk Tosun (28th) and Richarlison (31st). If neither the strikers, nor the midfielders are generating high quality chances for each other then you need to consider if the tactical approach is working.

So, what exactly is Marco Silva’s tactical approach? He made his name through playing a counter-attacking 4-3-3 formation. It was said of his Olympiakos side that they were so good on the break that they were more dangerous out of possession than in.

At Everton, this style of football is yet to click. Playing a 4-2-3-1 without any build up play from the three attacking midfielders, the style often more resembles a 4-2-4, with the only sustained threat coming from the left back where Lucas Digne tops the Everton attacking chart in terms of expected assists.

Given the lack of threat from the front four, and the lack of interchange between them, perhaps the best option would be to move one of the attackers back into a standard midfield position and revert to a 4-3-3.

The question is; whom? And if the answer is changing formation and dropping an expensive player is the club brave enough to make that decision? Can the team overcome a heavy dose of sunk cost fallacy embodied in the person of Gylfi Siggurdson and make smart, forward looking decisions?

The sunk cost fallacy explains that It is painful to accept having wasted money. This pain impedes your ability to make logical decisions. Having invested so much money in Gylfi Sigurdsson it becomes almost impossible for a manager to not play him. And yet the logical change to make to Everton’s line up is moving from a 4-2-3-1 (that actually resembles a 4-2-4) to a 4-3-3. And the logical player to replace is the player currently in the number 10 role who does not contribute to the build up play. Gylfi Sigurdsson.

Even without purchasing players Everton’s squad contains central midfield options of Nikola Vlasic, Kieran Dowell, Tom Davies, Morgan Schneiderlin, James McCarthy, Mo Besic, Joe WIlliams, Beni Baningime, and Callum Connolly. With Richarlison, Cenk Tosun, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Yannick Bolasie, Henry Onyekuru, Kevin Mirallas, and Ademola Lookman fighting for a place in the front three along with Walcott and Bernard.

Could Everton control games better, and play better on the break with an additional midfielder offering defensive cover and build up passing? Would a front three of, for example, Bernard, Richarlison and Lookman offer the pace and width in attack Marco Silva made his name coaching?

Or could Everton change their style of play and encourage more interchange in attack, and less directness? Bernard showed at Shakhtar Donetsk he can play in a high possession 4-2-3-1, with Walcott and Sigurdsson also having had success at Arsenal and Swansea in teams known for patient build up.

There are many questions for Marco Silva to find an answer to by the end of the season. He has options within his – huge – squad. First, however, he’ll have to decide to try something different, and that means accepting that the system he’s used his whole career isn’t working on the pitch at Goodison.
 
Robert Chambers said:
Losing a few football matches is hardly “destroying the club.” Honestly, this kind of hyperbole is just nonsense. The results aren’t good enough, of course, but he inherited a bunch of trash and has had 1 transfer window to do anything about it.
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Has added 6 first team players and has had 2 windows, no matter what he inherited, his job is to improve them, if he can't then sorry but bye.
 
MarcelsGoat said:
Something a little different than people with multiple multis saying sack the manager every 5 minutes.


A clear pattern emerges. Everton are extremely direct in attack, particularly Walcott and Sigurdsson, with very few interchanges between the players. When a player gets the ball they go directly for goal or try to play another player in, This is not a group concerned with exchanging passes or recycling possession.

In fact we can see this by looking where they each rank among the 42 other attacking midfielders in the proportion of forward passes in the final third:

Bernard: 15/42

Sigurdsson: 1/42

Walcott: 13/42



Sigurdsson is a particularly extreme example, topping the comparison chart for the proportion of passes that go forwards when in the final third but also being almost bottom for the volume. In summary he just doesn’t get involved in traditional midfield build up at all. And neither does Theo Walcott or Bernard.

The question is whether this is a deliberate tactical ploy, or simply a case of incompatible players failing to link up.

If we compare Everton with Wolverhampton Wanderers we see similar numbers in build up play, with Neves and Moutinho profiling similarly to Gomes and Gana. However when the 32 outfield strikers with over 1000 minutes on the pitch are sorted by expected open play assists per 90 minutes Raul Jimenez (3rd) and Diogo Jota (7th) appear a long way before Calvert-Lewin (27th), Cenk Tosun (28th) and Richarlison (31st). If neither the strikers, nor the midfielders are generating high quality chances for each other then you need to consider if the tactical approach is working.

So, what exactly is Marco Silva’s tactical approach? He made his name through playing a counter-attacking 4-3-3 formation. It was said of his Olympiakos side that they were so good on the break that they were more dangerous out of possession than in.

At Everton, this style of football is yet to click. Playing a 4-2-3-1 without any build up play from the three attacking midfielders, the style often more resembles a 4-2-4, with the only sustained threat coming from the left back where Lucas Digne tops the Everton attacking chart in terms of expected assists.

Given the lack of threat from the front four, and the lack of interchange between them, perhaps the best option would be to move one of the attackers back into a standard midfield position and revert to a 4-3-3.

The question is; whom? And if the answer is changing formation and dropping an expensive player is the club brave enough to make that decision? Can the team overcome a heavy dose of sunk cost fallacy embodied in the person of Gylfi Siggurdson and make smart, forward looking decisions?

The sunk cost fallacy explains that It is painful to accept having wasted money. This pain impedes your ability to make logical decisions. Having invested so much money in Gylfi Sigurdsson it becomes almost impossible for a manager to not play him. And yet the logical change to make to Everton’s line up is moving from a 4-2-3-1 (that actually resembles a 4-2-4) to a 4-3-3. And the logical player to replace is the player currently in the number 10 role who does not contribute to the build up play. Gylfi Sigurdsson.

Even without purchasing players Everton’s squad contains central midfield options of Nikola Vlasic, Kieran Dowell, Tom Davies, Morgan Schneiderlin, James McCarthy, Mo Besic, Joe WIlliams, Beni Baningime, and Callum Connolly. With Richarlison, Cenk Tosun, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Yannick Bolasie, Henry Onyekuru, Kevin Mirallas, and Ademola Lookman fighting for a place in the front three along with Walcott and Bernard.

Could Everton control games better, and play better on the break with an additional midfielder offering defensive cover and build up passing? Would a front three of, for example, Bernard, Richarlison and Lookman offer the pace and width in attack Marco Silva made his name coaching?

Or could Everton change their style of play and encourage more interchange in attack, and less directness? Bernard showed at Shakhtar Donetsk he can play in a high possession 4-2-3-1, with Walcott and Sigurdsson also having had success at Arsenal and Swansea in teams known for patient build up.

There are many questions for Marco Silva to find an answer to by the end of the season. He has options within his – huge – squad. First, however, he’ll have to decide to try something different, and that means accepting that the system he’s used his whole career isn’t working on the pitch at Goodison.
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hello mate
 

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