2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[Tipp blue]

What has Bielsa actually achieved outside South America?

He’s just as flavor at the month at the moment as Silva was, and is also going through a dismal patch at the moment outside the Derby win.

Sign him up Everton.

 

[GwladysBlue]

People forgetting how utterly abysmal Allardyce was in every aspect of management. Every time he opened his mouth he belittled the club in some way.

And yet Silva is performing worse. That must make Silva really bad.

 

[degsy]

Allardyce had a superb opportunity to lay out his credentials and he completely bottled it. He was appointed to stave off a relegation that was never really on the cards (unusual circumstances for him). There was one game where we collectively saw our arse and things looked bad - think it was a tanking by Southampton away, but that aside it just wasn't a threat. So that gave him a free run, over many games, to show everyone that he wants to be taken seriously as a football manager - he wasn't interested.
He's been chased out of every club he's been at where the fans are looking for some progression (rather than Fireman Sam putting fires out). Match day supporters just end up hating him for the dross football he delivers.

That he did and didn't, probably couldn't.

 

[Lanolin]

Silva has been underwhelming, there's no doubt about that. What did people really expect from this season though? This isn't like under Martinez where we'd been used to finishing 5th-7th every year and suddenly found ourselves in the bottom half, or under Koeman where we were spending a shed load of money for the first time and expected to break the top 6, I thought we were all fairly clear that 7th would be as good as it got, with a good chance of being lower? So why the panic?

We've seen from recent appointments that if Silva was to be sacked (I can't really believe i'm even giving credence to the suggestion by saying it but there you go) we'd just appoint Eddie Howe or someone else from exactly the same tier as we currently have, so we'd just be seeing if he had a bit more luck basically. Unless things go seriously pear shaped then Silva needs 2 years to try to do something. It's not even patience so much as realism, we're not going anywhere quickly no matter what happens. This season hasn't been what I hoped for but it hasn't been a total disaster either. At some point we need to give somebody a chance to put their stamp on things, and stop thinking that sacking a coach or changing the captain is going to make us a totally different side.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Deadwood has been around a long time, it should start to sort itself soon once contracts start expiring.

We seem to have a lot more deadwood than we’ve had before mate, also, the only 2 players out of contract at the end of the season are Williams and Baines, that still leaves a lot of deadwood.

 

[Bigjoe]

IF and it's a big IF Marco went would another manager be able to motivate our current crop of under achieving players?

 

[Bob Elstone]

Silva results wish has been a complete disaster. No hiding it.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Don’t know how true it is (can’t be arsed checking) but someone mentioned the other day that before the Derby game points wise we were in single figures behind the RS, now we’re 30 points behind them, if that is true, it just shows how far we are behind them as a club.

 

[BlueToff]

IF and it's a big IF Marco went would another manager be able to motivate our current crop of under achieving players?

For about 5 games, then it'd be back to normal.

 

[BernieH]

The job seems a poisoned chalice and not for the faint hearted at L4. The starved of success fanbase have become very demanding for silverware to come through the doors or to break into the big boys club, is not good for long term strategy. Need balls of steel and some black hair dye for this job as well as skin thicker than a rhino, EFC managers have no place having normal human feelings.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Surely pointless even contempleting who can take over. Serioulsy wjho cares its total pot luck.

Fact is we had a perfectly capable manager with proven track record in this league. He did a good job getting us up to 8th when we were in disarray.
We almost certainly would have progressed in the league to 6/7th this year. He stated a club like everton MUST also try and win the FA Cup and with 100m odd to spend he would have got us playing better football than survival dog-fight crap we needed last year. We would also set up against teams clearly better than us on paper in a way to get results. Not laughably try ad beat Lpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Totts at their own game.

Strangely enough reading this it’s hard to escape the impression that your expectation and hope is for us to remain exactly where we have been for the majority of the last 30 years , a resolutely mid table club. Avoiding relegation being the overriding aim.
Since that is exactly the position we currently ,once again ,occupy I fail to understand your angst since Silva is clearly meeting your limited requirements.

 

[Khalekan]

Typifies conformation bias by 98% of evertonians - laughable.

Allaydyce does a better job with a weaker squad than we have now. He is `a dinosaur, omg bfs, useless, no way, out'.

Silva who you all wanted does a worse job with a better squad and its `he needs time, I cant believe hoe bad these players are'.

Its about results stop being immature and silly.

You couldn’t be more wrong.

But how would you know anyway, even if we did?

You hsve only been here five minutes.

 

[larrygobfiend]

I think we're stuck with him for a good while. Sounds a bit weird, but we could do with a few injuries to force him to mix it up a bit and hopefully stumble upon something that works.

The striker thing's also a big issue. I fear we'll just stagnate until we bring someone decent in.

 

[BernieH]

I have to doff my cap at the hilarity of reading that Big Dunc is obviously to blame as he's the only constant. It's so incredibly bonkers it's funny.

 

[Khalekan]

I can understand the rewriting of history over Moyes every time we lose a game. It's all balderdash like, but I understand it.

Are we really rewriting history over Allardyce now too? Wow.

We'd be even worse if that slug were still here. All those overpaid deadwood players we need to shift too? We'd have a handful more now as well.

The only one “re-writing history” about Sam is this @HKIV fellow.

And he seems like a wind up merchant.