2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[Lanolin]

Mate.

Not getting relegated and losing cup finals are not achievements.

What did Moyes win?

The club hadn't been relegated for 50 years, Moyes not going down as a success story is why we haven't won anything for over 20 years. That's the extent of some people's idea of success.

Yes it was very good management , which considering his paycheck he earned it. But as manager of Everton he was a complete failure.

The fact that people still think he was a failure despite the fact we have got considerably worse with much more investment since he left is genuinely staggering. I could forgive people not understanding how good a job he was doing at the time because we were striving for better, but how you can still not get it now I really don't know.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Mate.

Not getting relegated and losing cup finals are not achievements.

What did Moyes win?

The club hadn't been relegated for 50 years, Moyes not going down as a success story is why we haven't won anything for over 20 years. That's the extent of some people's idea of success.

Yes it was very good management , which considering his paycheck he earned it. But as manager of Everton he was a complete failure.

We were circulating the drain and everyone knew it. Every other club in the prem outside the big six has gone down at some point. Just because we got lucky in 94 and 98 doesn’t mean we were special or anything, we would have gone down for sure and given the financial state of the club we probably would never have come back. No Moshiri, no new stadium, no 40 million pound players. If you want to belittle everything he did by saying he didn’t win a trophy then fine but given the absolute paucity of trophy winning Everton managers in our entire history it’s a strange view to take. In the context of the conditions he was in then his achievements were good ones and for people to deny that and call him a ‘complete failure’ is bizarre. Very well backed managers succeeding him haven’t even managed to equal his so called failures let alone do better.

 

[boris]

We’ve also had short CB’s. I think if you ask any attacker they’d rather get a run on a static defender than have someone grappling with them.

However like I said on Saturday I think with VAR man marking is just dead.

They don’t get a run, out little players who don’t get given a zone impede the runs if their big players to stop them getting free headers.

Our big players mark a dangerous zone infront of the goal and get to attack the ball as it comes in to the dangerous area, whilst the other little players, who previously offered nothing, now also play an important role.

Zonal marking was not getting used for Lincoln’s free kick on a Saturday, you wouldn’t use zonal from a free kick so deep.

The only team who have scored past us when zonal was used over the last few months has been Brighton and looking at that again they did everything that would be asked of them by the coaching staff, ie: stepped out leaving players off side as soon as the corner was swung away from the dangerous zone. It was just very unfortunate how it worked out.

After the teething problems of the first few weeks/months I think it’s been excellent and another part of Marco’s management that shows we’re in very capable hands.

 

[boris]

Our entire history??? We appointed him because the previous idiot had us in a right mess, something Sam sorted. Entire history, you only have to go weeks to see a situation that was even worse

It was the message it sent out.

Anyone can appoint bad managers, it happens, mistakes get made but that was actively appointing one.

It was the day we gave up on being a big club and wanting to win things. Even if it hadn’t happened for a long time we were still trying, we still had ambitions.

The moment that self serving, very over rated, corrupt waste of space was appointed we became a nothing club. We may as well have been Bolton, Huddersfield or Hull, just another nothing club happy to be there.

Thanks God Mr Moshri had only brought him in as a short term stop gap and quickly got rid of him.

 

[Strikinglyhandsome1]

The only team who have scored past us when zonal was used over the last few months has been Brighton

Burnley goal the game before. All the players standing in zones and he is on the back post unmarked.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

Whatever is said about zonal, when your little 5 foot 7 inch right back is marking the opposition's 6 foot 4 tall most dangerous attacker of a football at set pieces, that's wrong. There is no justification for that whatsoever. Man to man marking any day of the week. Especially with the likes of Mina, Keane and Zouma in there who have the ability to dominate the area.

 

[hallamblue]

Whatever is said about zonal, when your little 5 foot 7 inch right back is marking the opposition's 6 foot 4 tall most dangerous attacker of a football at set pieces, that's wrong. There is no justification for that whatsoever. Man to man marking any day of the week. Especially with the likes of Mina, Keane and Zouma in there who have the ability to dominate the area.

It's pretty obvious everyone has seen our marking on the telly. The big blokes cover the middle and the little ones the back post. No coincidence that in the last 2 games the oppositions tallest player has gone to the back post. You have to be smarter than that, it's not the 1960s.

 

[Strikinglyhandsome1]

It's pretty obvious everyone has seen our marking on the telly. The big blokes cover the middle

My gripe is they are too close together and are covering a very small area. It’s too easy to avoid them. I’ve noticed others who use zonal move one of their better headers of the ball towards the front post. Not beyond the post but ready to attack it. It also gives them a run at it, which is what you need there.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Liverpool used to have a problem with set piece defending using the zonal system but now suddenly have a great defence. Maybe if Silva was allowed longer than half a season to coach players that have been accumulated by 4 different managers he might be able to improve things too.

 

[hallamblue]

Liverpool used to have a problem with set piece defending using the zonal system but now suddenly have a great defence. Maybe if Silva was allowed longer than half a season to coach players that have been accumulated by 4 different managers he might be able to improve things too.

Funnily enough, Liverpool's defending improved when they bought the world's most expensive defender.

 

[Parker]

Funnily enough, Liverpool's defending improved when they bought the world's most expensive defender.

It's weird how those 2 things coincide with one another.

 

[vinvinvin]

Funnily enough, Liverpool's defending improved when they bought the world's most expensive defender.

I'd be waary of us trying to emulate this strategy. We'd probably make someone like Lascelles from Newcastle the world's most expensive defender and then wonder why we were still conceding from set pieces..

 

[Lanolin]

Funnily enough, Liverpool's defending improved when they bought the world's most expensive defender.

Surely proving beyond doubt that it's not a problem with the system? If it was a system problem it wouldn't matter how good the players were, the system would never work, but it clearly does if the players are good enough and drilled enough in it.

 

[hallamblue]

I'd be waary of us trying to emulate this strategy. We'd probably make someone like Lascelles from Newcastle the world's most expensive defender and then wonder why we were still conceding from set pieces..

Or we could sign Koulibaly like Moshiri wanted to and become amazing!

 

[hallamblue]

Surely proving beyond doubt that it's not a problem with the system? If it was a system problem it wouldn't matter how good the players were, the system would never work, but it clearly does if the players are good enough and drilled enough in it.

Yes, but you either need great players or a great system. We don't have either unfortunately.