2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

Grade Marco Silva's 2018/19 Season

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MarcelsGoat

Brands Only Signs Ballers
That's modern football isn't it? Only ever a few games from being great or terrible.

Bigger picture for me is the season will end, we'll likely be 8th-10th and as close points wise to relegation as 6th place, with the season having been a write off when Millwall dumped us out the Cup in January.

We'd be going into next season with a manager who is still a 'gamble' in Moshiri's own words and a manager with a lesser record than the previous 3 who were deemed not good enough.
I dunno about lesser record, sure he wont beat Koeman or Martinez first season totals, but he potentially could pass all their win rates.
 

Jamalio Danubio DiCanio

Player Valuation: £500k
That's modern football isn't it? Only ever a few games from being great or terrible.

Bigger picture for me is the season will end, we'll likely be 8th-10th and as close points wise to relegation as 6th place, with the season having been a write off when Millwall dumped us out the Cup in January.

We'd be going into next season with a manager who is still a 'gamble' in Moshiri's own words and a manager with a lesser record than the previous 3 who were deemed not good enough.
Sometimes the success of a season can't be quantified at the end of that season. Maybe the season is a building block for what happens in 2019/2020 and beyond.

It's still a gamble going froward with Silva but feels like a gamble worth taking. The club needs stability. Not another throw of the dice on a new manager. I'm not saying that Silva is going to become a great manager but I think it's a risk worth taking. Other will disagree. If it is a new manger it needs to be a manager in a similar style to what Brands wants to recruit for. I suspect this isn't Mourinho style football.
 

GrandOldTeam

Moderator
Staff member
....virtually every managerial appointment carries risk.
I didn't suggest otherwise.

I wouldn't say virtually either, I'd say all managerial appointments carry risk.

Clearly though, some managers have credentials that would seemingly alleviate risk.

When Farhad Moshiri said at the AGM Marco Silva was a gamble (and the league position wasn't good enough) - he meant exactly that, he hadn't proved anything in this league besides winning 3 games in every 10. We are asking him to do something he hasn't done before.

I think the Brands role mitigates the risk because he co-ordinates transfer/playing strategy throughout the club. The Manager/DoF axis has to be a partnership and ultimate success rests on that being effective.
That's the theory isn't it?

Time will tell.

Silva has been found wanting, conceding 6 at home to Spurs and losing to Millwall in that fashion shouldn’t happen in a well organised and drilled team. My main concern with Silva is what his team does when the opposition has the ball, but that is becoming less of an issue.

Lots of successful managers have very bad spells before turning things around. Let’s hope Silva is one of them. Only time will tell.
Given the lack of time he's spent at any club to draw worthwhile conclusions, it's difficult to say. At both Watford and Everton he has had an issue with form nosediving, time will tell.
 

brieverton

Player Valuation: £25m
Having thought that he was sailing very close to the wind in February, the period since March has been good enough by the relative standards against which he should be judged, and so the stability we gain by going into next season with him in charge and the upturn in results are positives.

He will have to achieve a greater degree of consistency next season though, it would be difficult at any point not to ask serious questions if we went on another horror run in a manner similar to that between December and February.

Even before this, the game on Saturday is the sort of benchmark fixture that will still divide opinion as to what result we should be capable of. How many times out of 10 should we expect to beat Crystal Palace away, all other things being equal? 3? 5? 7?

There has been a slight upturn in away points and an obvious improvement vs the Top Six. The truth lies somewhere in the middle but with more of his own players coming in over the summer, if Silva is going anywhere in this job, we need to be pushing towards 60 points to offer us any degree of encouragement that this is going to go in the sort of direction we all want.
 

Lanolin

Player Valuation: £35m
Agenda?

No agenda at all soft lad, I'm an Everton fan. Why would I have an agenda against an Everton manager?

To assume I would is weird.

The point, as a said by 'Small margins' It's to demonstrate just how small the margins in terms of league positions.
Is 9 points small margins though? I mean, it's about 25% of the points Burnley have actually got isn't, so it's not exactly insignificant by any reasonable measure. I assume that if we win the next couple you'll be happy to say that we were 'only' three wins away from finishing in the top 6 for the first time in 5 years, and this was therefore incredibly close to being an excellent season?
 

mikeh72

Player Valuation: £70m
Agenda?

No agenda at all soft lad, I'm an Everton fan. Why would I have an agenda against an Everton manager?

To assume I would is weird.

The point, as a said by 'Small margins' It's to demonstrate just how small the margins in terms of league positions.
It really does come across like you don’t want this particular manager to be successful though. You’re not alone though, there’s a decent chunk of the fanbase that give off that impression.
 

GrandOldTeam

Moderator
Staff member
Is 9 points small margins though? I mean, it's about 25% of the points Burnley have actually got isn't, so it's not exactly insignificant by any reasonable measure. I assume that if we win the next couple you'll be happy to say that we were 'only' three wins away from finishing in the top 6 for the first time in 5 years, and this was therefore incredibly close to being an excellent season?
The point wasn't intended as a direct comparison to Burnley, nor my expectation that we could fall to 15th - just how small the margins are and how quickly it can change in the second league we're in outside the top 6.

We're 1 point from 10th and 3 wins from Burnley in 15th. Small margins.
The point, as a said by 'Small margins' It's to demonstrate just how small the margins in terms of league positions.
That's modern football isn't it? Only ever a few games from being great or terrible.
 

mahermi1

Player Valuation: £10m
My opinion hasn't changed.

This from March;


Moo Kim i.e.
And this from Wednesday.



The last few weeks has validated how under-performing the side he's had have performed all season - gone is the question of the squad not being good enough.

Anyway, ultimately - with a better squad - his record is worse than Martinez, Koeman and Allardyce.

We're 1 point from 10th and 3 wins from Burnley in 15th. Small margins.

He's not good enough blues, if he's bought himself more time then that's on Brands next season.
Do you not think it takes time for a new manager/ backroom staff and players to gel ? Did you really think it would happen overnight ? When we first got him I thought most fans would give him a minimum of two seasons / four transfer Windows to resolve the massive problems he come into. The signs for me are very good, the fitness, which I've always thought was a problem here is improving. What was it 8km more distance than Man United.

Klopp finished eighth in his first season, hamstrings popping everywhere, until he got that fitness right, we have bought some excellent players and are playing good football, give him a chance. When was the last time we beat three of the top six darlings on the trott ! Yes there will be hick ups, but myself think we are making good progress.
 

ToffeeTim

Player Valuation: £70m
My opinion hasn't changed.

This from March;



And this from Wednesday.



The last few weeks has validated how under-performing the side he's had have performed all season - gone is the question of the squad not being good enough.

Anyway, ultimately - with a better squad - his record is worse than Martinez, Koeman and Allardyce.

We're 1 point from 10th and 3 wins from Burnley in 15th. Small margins.

He's not good enough blues, if he's bought himself more time then that's on Brands next season.
He's doing no worse than Martinez and far better than Allardyce.

We didn't have 4 shots against decent teams under him nevermind win 4 nil. You're getting bogged down in statistics regarding Allardyce. He also got 49 points yes. Which we will now surpass too may I add. But this team is much closer to what we need to compete than the dross served up under Allardyce. That's what this season was about. Laying foundations for getting back towards being competitive. And that's what we've got in the end. Lots of crap thrown into the mix but progression.

We can go out and get a better manager than Silva potentially, but it's not easy. Even if we did though, it would still be no guarantee of progression and success. There's have been much bigger problems over the last 30 years than just solely the managers.
 

Thomasc

Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
We had no Europe this season and attracted Digne, Bernard, Gomes and Richarlison.
We did, let’s hope we can find similar types. Brands has said he has profiled players with promise or something to prove who are possibly fringe CL types, so if he can find more like these.
 

MarcelsGoat

Brands Only Signs Ballers
https://proximajornada1.wordpress.com/2019/04/22/a-tale-of-two-derbies-marco-silvas-first-season-in-charge-of-everton-fc/

A Tale of Two Derbies: Marco Silva’s first season in charge of Everton FC
As the Premier League season begins to come to a close, Próxima Jornada looks at Silva’s first season in charge of Everton, analyses the key moments and looks to the future of this great club and its Portuguese manager.

As Marco Silva was announced as Everton manager, opinions differed depending on who you spoke to. Some supporters were unconvinced, both with his history of instability at previous jobs (6 clubs in 8 years) and also with his premier league track record. Other supporters were a lot more positive, impressed with his spell at Hull where he nearly pulled off the impossible by keeping them up and with his excellent form with Watford, that is until Everton declared interest and their form went somewhat awry. Many supporters, however, were simply happy that Sam Allardyce wasn’t the man in charge for the upcoming season and were willing to back whoever was to take the reins of this historic club.

Silva signed a three-year contract and began to get to work for the season ahead, bringing in Richarlison (who he worked with at Watford), Lucas Digne and Yerry Mina from FC Barcelona, Bernard from Shakhtar Donetsk as well as fellow countryman André Gomes from Barcelona and Chelsea’s Kurt Zouma on loan. These signings were echoed by Silva comments to Sky Sports, “I know the huge history of Everton as a club…I’m sure with everybody working together I will be ready for this challenge”. He saw that Everton needed an injection of quality if they were to achieve and fulfil his ambitions and bought and loaned wisely.

Everton started the season well, albeit drawing too many games (particularly after going ahead first, 2-2 v Wolves, 2-2 v Bournemouth) but overall there were plenty of reasons for Everton fans to be happy and hopeful in relation to the rest of the season. Silva deployed a 4231, in which Sigurðsson was supported by two deeper central midfielders, this allowed the Icelandic international to move freely across the front 3 and pick up the ball in the pockets of space, just behind the striker where he loves to strike the ball from or play an incisive pass into the frontman.


When Everton rolled into Anfield to face their high-flying neighbours, they were 6th in the table, had only 3 defeats in 13 games (2 of those coming against United at Old Trafford and Arsenal at the Emirates) and looked comfortably the best side outside of the top 6.

Then came the moment that turned Everton’s season, Everton battled well throughout the game, putting in one of their best performances at Anfield in recent years. They won more aerial duels, had 9 shots, hit the woodwork and had a chance cleared off the line by Joe Gomez. As the game was coming to a close, a freak error by Jordan Pickford gifted Liverpool the opener and winner, as he came up for a routine high ball into the box, he fumbled it back into the box where Origi was there to tap home. This is where the season began to turn for the worse for the Toffee’s. Everton went on an abysmal run of form in which in 14 games, they lost 9, drawn 2 and won just 3. Silva tried to change things tactically at Everton in order to change their fortunes, opting to alternate between a 4231, 443, 4141 and a 541. However, the changes in shape and tactics were not enough to stop this rotten form, Everton looked vulnerable particularly from set-pieces due to the zonal marking Silva had implemented and in general The Toffee’s looked like a team spiralling into mid-table mediocrity, at least for this season. Then came the second Merseyside Derby, the other turning point for Marco and his men. Silva had reverted back to his trusted 4231 in recent weeks and there had been signs of what Everton could be under Silva in the away match against Cardiff. Everton dominated in every aspect, winning 0-3 and defending well particularly set pieces, albeit against a poor side.

As Liverpool’s visit to Goodison Park loomed on the horizon, many Everton supporters could be forgiven for thinking their rivals in red (who themselves remained in locked horns with Man City for the title) where about to deliver unto them a demolition, however derbies are never foregone conclusions and the match itself panned out very differently.

The atmosphere was absolutely electric at Goodison, with the Everton PA system debuting the now infamous siren before Z Cars. The crowd did their part and were baying for a passionate performance against their rivals from across Stanley Park. Everton defended resolutely whilst still posing a threat themselves, throughout. The back four looked organised and assured, something it hadn’t looked for a very long time. The players ran themselves into the ground for one another, something that is not a preference but a necessity for the Goodison faithful. The match ended in a draw and whilst they never gained all 3 points the result was significant in that it felt like a weight had been lifted and The Blues’ dismal run had ended. The Blues had delivered a performance that their supporters could be proud of.

Since that game, Silva’s men have simply not looked back, particularly at home. Everton have played 3 games at Goodison since the Merseyside Derby, against Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United. Everton have won all 3, scoring 7 goals and conceding 0. In between the Chelsea and Arsenal game they visited the London stadium where they also dismantled West Ham 2-0 in an encounter that in truth, should have been at least 5 or 6-0.


The latest game at Goodison Park, the 4-0 demolition of Manchester United is without doubt the finest moment of Marco Silva’s first season in charge of Everton. Those 90 minutes against United represented everything an Everton side should be. Dominant, aggressive, up-tempo and ruthless. The crowd again were exceptional, getting behind the players for the entirety of the game and the men on the pitch responded with a performance that is one to remember. Of course, there are still kinks to iron out for Everton, mainly their inconsistency away from home, losing 2-0 away to a relegated Fulham and losing a 2-0 lead and subsequently being beaten 3-2 by Newcastle, are frustrating blots on what has been otherwise tremendous form.

All in all, this turning point has shown what Everton and Marco Silva are capable of, they must continue in this vain for the remainder of the season and solidify their position as the 7th best team in the league, which they are. Looking ahead to next season, it is important that Marco can tie down both Gomes and Zouma permanently, as both have been key men in their first season. Marcel Brands and his team will be tasked with finding and securing key additions to the squad, boosting both depth and first team quality in preparation for an assault on the top 6 next seasons.

Everton have already proved with their recent form that they can not only take points off, but dominate other top 6 sides, if they can become more consistent away from home and develop their ability to effectively manage games when in the lead, there is no reason why Everton and Silva cannot have a fantastic and fruitful season next year.
 

roydo

Moderator
Staff member
https://proximajornada1.wordpress.com/2019/04/22/a-tale-of-two-derbies-marco-silvas-first-season-in-charge-of-everton-fc/

A Tale of Two Derbies: Marco Silva’s first season in charge of Everton FC
As the Premier League season begins to come to a close, Próxima Jornada looks at Silva’s first season in charge of Everton, analyses the key moments and looks to the future of this great club and its Portuguese manager.

As Marco Silva was announced as Everton manager, opinions differed depending on who you spoke to. Some supporters were unconvinced, both with his history of instability at previous jobs (6 clubs in 8 years) and also with his premier league track record. Other supporters were a lot more positive, impressed with his spell at Hull where he nearly pulled off the impossible by keeping them up and with his excellent form with Watford, that is until Everton declared interest and their form went somewhat awry. Many supporters, however, were simply happy that Sam Allardyce wasn’t the man in charge for the upcoming season and were willing to back whoever was to take the reins of this historic club.

Silva signed a three-year contract and began to get to work for the season ahead, bringing in Richarlison (who he worked with at Watford), Lucas Digne and Yerry Mina from FC Barcelona, Bernard from Shakhtar Donetsk as well as fellow countryman André Gomes from Barcelona and Chelsea’s Kurt Zouma on loan. These signings were echoed by Silva comments to Sky Sports, “I know the huge history of Everton as a club…I’m sure with everybody working together I will be ready for this challenge”. He saw that Everton needed an injection of quality if they were to achieve and fulfil his ambitions and bought and loaned wisely.

Everton started the season well, albeit drawing too many games (particularly after going ahead first, 2-2 v Wolves, 2-2 v Bournemouth) but overall there were plenty of reasons for Everton fans to be happy and hopeful in relation to the rest of the season. Silva deployed a 4231, in which Sigurðsson was supported by two deeper central midfielders, this allowed the Icelandic international to move freely across the front 3 and pick up the ball in the pockets of space, just behind the striker where he loves to strike the ball from or play an incisive pass into the frontman.


When Everton rolled into Anfield to face their high-flying neighbours, they were 6th in the table, had only 3 defeats in 13 games (2 of those coming against United at Old Trafford and Arsenal at the Emirates) and looked comfortably the best side outside of the top 6.

Then came the moment that turned Everton’s season, Everton battled well throughout the game, putting in one of their best performances at Anfield in recent years. They won more aerial duels, had 9 shots, hit the woodwork and had a chance cleared off the line by Joe Gomez. As the game was coming to a close, a freak error by Jordan Pickford gifted Liverpool the opener and winner, as he came up for a routine high ball into the box, he fumbled it back into the box where Origi was there to tap home. This is where the season began to turn for the worse for the Toffee’s. Everton went on an abysmal run of form in which in 14 games, they lost 9, drawn 2 and won just 3. Silva tried to change things tactically at Everton in order to change their fortunes, opting to alternate between a 4231, 443, 4141 and a 541. However, the changes in shape and tactics were not enough to stop this rotten form, Everton looked vulnerable particularly from set-pieces due to the zonal marking Silva had implemented and in general The Toffee’s looked like a team spiralling into mid-table mediocrity, at least for this season. Then came the second Merseyside Derby, the other turning point for Marco and his men. Silva had reverted back to his trusted 4231 in recent weeks and there had been signs of what Everton could be under Silva in the away match against Cardiff. Everton dominated in every aspect, winning 0-3 and defending well particularly set pieces, albeit against a poor side.

As Liverpool’s visit to Goodison Park loomed on the horizon, many Everton supporters could be forgiven for thinking their rivals in red (who themselves remained in locked horns with Man City for the title) where about to deliver unto them a demolition, however derbies are never foregone conclusions and the match itself panned out very differently.

The atmosphere was absolutely electric at Goodison, with the Everton PA system debuting the now infamous siren before Z Cars. The crowd did their part and were baying for a passionate performance against their rivals from across Stanley Park. Everton defended resolutely whilst still posing a threat themselves, throughout. The back four looked organised and assured, something it hadn’t looked for a very long time. The players ran themselves into the ground for one another, something that is not a preference but a necessity for the Goodison faithful. The match ended in a draw and whilst they never gained all 3 points the result was significant in that it felt like a weight had been lifted and The Blues’ dismal run had ended. The Blues had delivered a performance that their supporters could be proud of.

Since that game, Silva’s men have simply not looked back, particularly at home. Everton have played 3 games at Goodison since the Merseyside Derby, against Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United. Everton have won all 3, scoring 7 goals and conceding 0. In between the Chelsea and Arsenal game they visited the London stadium where they also dismantled West Ham 2-0 in an encounter that in truth, should have been at least 5 or 6-0.


The latest game at Goodison Park, the 4-0 demolition of Manchester United is without doubt the finest moment of Marco Silva’s first season in charge of Everton. Those 90 minutes against United represented everything an Everton side should be. Dominant, aggressive, up-tempo and ruthless. The crowd again were exceptional, getting behind the players for the entirety of the game and the men on the pitch responded with a performance that is one to remember. Of course, there are still kinks to iron out for Everton, mainly their inconsistency away from home, losing 2-0 away to a relegated Fulham and losing a 2-0 lead and subsequently being beaten 3-2 by Newcastle, are frustrating blots on what has been otherwise tremendous form.

All in all, this turning point has shown what Everton and Marco Silva are capable of, they must continue in this vain for the remainder of the season and solidify their position as the 7th best team in the league, which they are. Looking ahead to next season, it is important that Marco can tie down both Gomes and Zouma permanently, as both have been key men in their first season. Marcel Brands and his team will be tasked with finding and securing key additions to the squad, boosting both depth and first team quality in preparation for an assault on the top 6 next seasons.

Everton have already proved with their recent form that they can not only take points off, but dominate other top 6 sides, if they can become more consistent away from home and develop their ability to effectively manage games when in the lead, there is no reason why Everton and Silva cannot have a fantastic and fruitful season next year.
Fair, balanced, and pretty much on the money that.
 

ToffeeTim

Player Valuation: £70m
There are better managers out there 100%. But there is no elite manager we can attract who is risk free. I expected 50 or so points. We got there in the end.

It's a simple scenario. Silva has achieved the bare minimum this year so he deserves to stay on for next season. But the bar he has set is on the low side. So either he does slightly better next season or he will be sacked. That's the game.

Things are looking up at the moment so at least I have some hope for his longer term future here, but of course none of us can say he's definitely going to get it right.
 

GrandOldTeam

Moderator
Staff member
It really does come across like you don’t want this particular manager to be successful though. You’re not alone though, there’s a decent chunk of the fanbase that give off that impression.
I don't care about him. Nor Martinez or Koeman.

I care about Everton.

I don't think he will make Everton compete, and by compete - get us in the top 6/win a trophy.

Moshiri hasn't been able to bring a top manager to the club and so he's been 'gambling' by his own admission on flavours of the month.

If Moshiri/Brands can't bring in that top manager, then it is what it is.

In January Moshiri said “I have thrown in £250 million to turn a museum into a competitive outfit"

We're less competitive now than we were before Moshiri come in.

We aren't competing, we aren't going to live up to Moshiri's sound bites until we have a top manager come in. I don't think that's Marco Silva.
 

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