2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[Stuartisitc1878]

now things have died down a little from last weeks mess ( I don't count city ) if he wins tomorrow he buys himself more time

if we lose again I just don't see how he comes back from it, been months of garbage now. needs to start showing people why we risked points etc for him

City rightly or wrongly was a free pass. If we lose to Watford however he’s in serious danger. Those players owe him a massive performance on Saturday. They need to stand up and be counted for. If not for Silva for themselves. You’ve got bang average players like Deeney making jokes and talking about kicking the Sh*t out of us because we’ve become such a soft touch... it’s times the players took some pride in what they do and took some responsibility and prove people like Deeney wrong.

 

[Blue_in_london]

Well to be honest, we don't need Keys to tell us any stats (or made up stats) - we can all see for ourselves how pants we are at defending.

Silva thinks it's down to a mental thing. I'd be more inclined to say it is physical - it is about actual positioning of players in the defensive space.

 

[BlueToff]

My thoughts are, maybe he should work on his set pieces as it's making him/them/us look like chumps.

I don't understand the theory that set-pieces aren't being worked on though. He's said they are being worked on.

There comes a point where we say - right, whatever they are doing isn't working, or it's the players.

My opinion is that it's a bit of both. Whatever the system (not even whether it's zonal or man, but more the organisation) from Silva isn't working, but also the players simply aren't up to scratch (Zouma is perfect evidence of this - the bloke doesn't know where anyone is and NONE of our players attack the ball - which we know isn't the instruction as Silva has publicly asked them to be more aggressive).

 

[ijjysmith]

I don't understand the theory that set-pieces aren't being worked on though. He's said they are being worked on.

There comes a point where we say - right, whatever they are doing isn't working, or it's the players.

My opinion is that it's a bit of both. Whatever the system (not even whether it's zonal or man, but more the organisation) from Silva isn't working, but also the players simply aren't up to scratch (Zouma is perfect evidence of this - the bloke doesn't know where anyone is and NONE of our players attack the ball - which we know isn't the instruction as Silva has publicly asked them to be more aggressive).

He also says the word 'obligated'. Like a lot. Doesn't mean anything though.

 

[Connor]

How many players do we have who are capable of winning an aerial challenge at a set piece?

Goat-style squad breakdown time.

Pickford - No
Digne - Yes
Zouma - Yes
Keane - Yes
Mina - Yes
Kenny - Yes
Baines - No
Coleman - No
Sigurdsson - No
Richarlison - No
Walcott - No
Gomes - No
Gueye - No
Davies - No
Lookman - No
Schneiderlin - No
Calvert-Lewin - Yes
Tosun - No

So, basically, we have to play five at the back to be able to field a side with more people who can head the ball than can't. Where's Fellaini when you need him.

Browns, you've broken my heart by praising Kurt Distin's aerial ability just days after his City debacle.

 

[BlueToff]

He also says the word 'obligated'. Like a lot. Doesn't mean anything though.

Don't really know if that's just English not being his first language, like. But yeh I've noticed it.

I just think we can safely assume it's not all on Silva and not all on the players. It's a 50/50 split of both.

I honestly don't know if all the coaching in the world will make Zouma realise he actually has to move towards the ball to win a header.

 

[BernieH]

I don't understand the theory that set-pieces aren't being worked on though. He's said they are being worked on.

There comes a point where we say - right, whatever they are doing isn't working, or it's the players.

My opinion is that it's a bit of both. Whatever the system (not even whether it's zonal or man, but more the organisation) from Silva isn't working, but also the players simply aren't up to scratch (Zouma is perfect evidence of this - the bloke doesn't know where anyone is and NONE of our players attack the ball - which we know isn't the instruction as Silva has publicly asked them to be more aggressive).

Well they aren't working on themcorrectly then. I don't dispute they work on them but at some point surely you say to yourself,this isn't working. It's bizarre how they keep doing the same stuff over and over and over and when a manager won't/can't change these things, he's as good as gone.

 

[BlueToff]

Well they aren't working on themcorrectly then. I don't dispute they work on them but at some point surely you say to yourself,this isn't working. It's bizarre how they keep doing the same stuff over and over and over and when a manager won't/can't change these things, he's as good as gone.

Look at the loveable bunch across the park.

Klopp has never changed how he sets up at set-pieces or even defence in general. What's improved them drastically - for the most part - has been getting Van Dijk.

Now nobody can argue against Liverpool's defensive record this season. Yet in terms of set up there has been no noticeable change. It has merely been down to personnel - one player, really.

So would you say that Klopp still doesn't 'work on them correctly'?

I'm not laying all of the blame at the players' door. End of the day Silva has to do something to fix it.

I'm just not sure whatever he does will fix it while we still have the same players making the same mistakes, though.

 

[BernieH]

Look at the loveable bunch across the park.

Klopp has never changed how he sets up at set-pieces or even defence in general. What's improved them drastically - for the most part - has been getting Van Dijk.

Now nobody can argue against Liverpool's defensive record this season. Yet in terms of set up there has been no noticeable change. It has merely been down to personnel - one player, really.

So would you say that Klopp still doesn't 'work on them correctly'?

I'm not laying all of the blame at the players' door. End of the day Silva has to do something to fix it.

I'm just not sure whatever he does will fix it while we still have the same players making the same mistakes, though.

You are probably right, I'm putting it all on Silva here and I know fine well it's not. I've said in many threads criticising the players for lack of communication, organisation and leadership. It most definitely is on the players once on the pitch, it's all too easy to blame the manager. It's just when something is so blatantly wrong and appears to be continuing, it's easy to look at the bloke who picks the tactics. Nobody is blameless.

I also have said that now it has probably having some sort of psychological effect, it will on their minds now making them hesitant, we need some strong personalities.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

I hope his ass is sacked if we get beat.

 

[Yarrgh]

Well to be honest, we don't need Keys to tell us any stats (or made up stats) - we can all see for ourselves how pants we are at defending.

Silva thinks it's down to a mental thing. I'd be more inclined to say it is physical - it is about actual positioning of players in the defensive space.

Was about to write this musing, when I saw your post....

Just be positive Marco. I am sure that the defence is so flakey because they're constantly feeling under threat. Our attacks need to put the other team on the back foot a bit and it will relieve a lot of that pressure, and the defence might free up enough that they can drop concentration levels during the games when there is no danger - rather than have concentration fatigue and making daft rickets due to it.

I may be wrong, but if everything is appearing fine in training and not in games, then there is obviously (to me anyway) some mental aspect that needs addressing. The only way for the boys to get confidence is to be successful, and at the minute they're suffering from a bit of shell shock in games- reduce the pressure on them.

 

[Zezti]

He also says the word 'obligated'. Like a lot. Doesn't mean anything though.

Not nearly as much as he says the word 'moment'.
"In this moment we..."
"In that moment the game..."

 

[PhilRegan]

Not nearly as much as he says the word 'moment'.
"In this moment we..."
"In that moment the game..."

His English is quite Phenomenal to be fair.

 

[davids]

Look at the loveable bunch across the park.

Klopp has never changed how he sets up at set-pieces or even defence in general. What's improved them drastically - for the most part - has been getting Van Dijk.

Now nobody can argue against Liverpool's defensive record this season. Yet in terms of set up there has been no noticeable change. It has merely been down to personnel - one player, really.

So would you say that Klopp still doesn't 'work on them correctly'?

I'm not laying all of the blame at the players' door. End of the day Silva has to do something to fix it.

I'm just not sure whatever he does will fix it while we still have the same players making the same mistakes, though.

It's about having a leader on the park,we don't have one.

 

[summerisle]