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That's unnecessarily xenophobic

Good read, but sorry mate if they get some semblance of pride out of that then they shouldn't be wearing the shirt.

Who actually cares about 70 minutes of playing well if it's sandwiched between an appalling start and an atrocious and shambolic collapse at the end.

I didn't see much good in there, have to say. utd sat back realising how comfy they were. We still couldn't create.

There was some effort at an individual level., but this is the real worry for me: this team selection and balance is so dire it's making genuine players look average.

No pace, no width.

But we've godda say it. Koeman has blown 150m. I genuinely don't think any of our buys will deliver much, and can't really see other than maybe Keane where they'll bring longer term improvement on what was there already.

Painful viewing after last season where the promotion of Everton youth players promised a lot. We've bought reactively.

The test now is Moshiri's pockets. He's already helping fund a stadium. Will he go for another 80m or so to grab a LB, forward (love Baines but he's getting on ) and pacey wide player if Bolasie/ Coleman don't return soon?
 

I didn't see much good in there, have to say. utd sat back realising how comfy they were. We still couldn't create.

There was some effort at an individual level., but this is the real worry for me: this team selection and balance is so dire it's making genuine players look average.

No pace, no width.

But we've godda say it. Koeman has blown 150m. I genuinely don't think any of our buys will deliver much, and can't really see other than maybe Keane where they'll bring longer term improvement on what was there already.

Painful viewing after last season where the promotion of Everton youth players promised a lot. We've bought reactively.

The test now is Moshiri's pockets. He's already helping fund a stadium. Will he go for another 80m or so to grab a LB, forward (love Baines but he's getting on ) and pacey wide player if Bolasie/ Coleman don't return soon?
We are flogging a dead horse giving this joker any more money!
 

Positives are that we passed the ball ALOT better, showed more fight, got up the pitch and created a few chances. However, anyone who thinks we played well yesterday is stuck in the Walter Smith era. United were relatively poor and any top 7 side who put in a half decent performance would have got something. Scary to think what the score would have been at half time if United played well considering the gaps in the defence.

A good performance would have been playing like we did between the 30th and 80th minute, taking one of the chances we had and not making hideous mistakes at the back. Then we could have considered ourselves hard done by.

The only thing worse than Williams or Jagielka playing is Williams and Jagielka playing. Credit we're credit is due there last ditch defending was good yesterday, decent tackling and blocks. But most of the time they were only in these positions due to there poor positioning, reading of the game and horrible distribution in the lead up. These two are hopeless footballers and are a major part of recent results. Build up play for attacks starts at the back and when you have their loose passes going into the midfield it slows down and wastes many opportunities to attack, not to mention costing us goals. I think having them in side reduces the confidence of the whole team. People slate Mori 10 times more than Williams and 100 times more than Jagielka but he is better than both of them. Surely time for Holgate to get a chance at CB.

We simply haven't got the personnel to play 5 at the back, by taking an attacking player out and putting either Williams or Jagielka in the side we are reducing the number of players on the pitch who can retain the ball and contribute to an attack, in a way we are playing with 10 men. You need good ball playing CB's to succeed with this formation. Also you need people who can play Wingback. I thought Martina did well yesterday and was much better than Baines who simply can not play that role anymore, which makes us again one more player short on attacks as every time he receives the ball in an advanced position he stops and passes it back. Baines also seemed to escape attention for Lukaku's goal for which he was at fault, I can excuse him not being able to get forward like he once did, but not awful, un-arsed and unaware defending like that.

If we are going to play 4 at the back in with neither Williams or Jagielka in the side I think Kenny has to play as I wouldn't trust Martina from a defensive point of view in a back 4. Giving are recent defensive form he has to bin players of at the back and give Holgate and Kenny opportunities. Keane escapes my attention for now as he has had Martina for cover to one side and Williams and/or Jagielka on the other, I feel sorry for the lad who thought he would be playing alongside better players when he moved from Burnley, must be a shock to his system.

All in all positive signs that we can get out of this, but still the wrong personnel and tactics. Although Koeman can't stop Williams and Jagielka creating chances for the opposition, he can choose not to play them.
 
January we sign a centre forward and a striker, the team has gelled by then we finish 4th or 5th ........

Still a gamble, if we dont pick up points in the next few games then we are going to be struggling, I for one am not confident we will beat any of the teams coming up, no easy games in the Prem, and we havent got any goals in us.
 
Tom Davies just shades it from Rooney for me, those substitutions were diabolical, the Rooney one apart as he was knackered but Davies and Gana should not have been replaced, atrocious.
 

Lacks talent ? Are you being serious or is this a joke ?
Lacks the talent haha he's lost his pace the rest of his game is fine, get over yourself for gods sake.
He can’t play simple passes. I’d say that was a lack of talent. He lost the ball yesterday more than any other player, more than I’ve seen Ross ever lose it, that sort of thing would have everyone on Barkleys back, but because it’s Rooney it’s fine and he probably meant it.
 
He can’t play simple passes. I’d say that was a lack of talent. He lost the ball yesterday more than any other player, more than I’ve seen Ross ever lose it, that sort of thing would have everyone on Barkleys back, but because it’s Rooney it’s fine and he probably meant it.

He got tired and made some sloppy passes before that he was good. Too say Manchester Utd and Englands all time top scorer lacks talent says to me you don't know much about football my good man. get a grip. You have issues with him obviously.
 
He got tired and made some sloppy passes before that he was good. Too say Manchester Utd and Englands all time top scorer lacks talent says to me you don't know much about football my good man. get a grip. You have issues with him obviously.
He was giving the ball away from the start.

I’m not saying he never had talent, he clearly did, but it’s long since gone and he’s a shell of his former self. He’s declined rapidly over the last few seasons.

Surplus to requirements at Utd, our superstar. We’re supposed to be catching them up.
 
He was giving the ball away from the start.

I’m not saying he never had talent, he clearly did, but it’s long since gone and he’s a shell of his former self. He’s declined rapidly over the last few seasons.

Surplus to requirements at Utd, our superstar. We’re supposed to be catching them up.

It's not so extreme is it, of course he isn't the player he was, I wasn't keen on him coming back for that fact; however he is playing no worse than anyone else, in fact he's playing better than most of them. They're all garbage at the minute, it's a tad unfair to single anyone out. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though, so that obviously is upto you.
 
It's not so extreme is it, of course he isn't the player he was, I wasn't keen on him coming back for that fact; however he is playing no worse than anyone else, in fact he's playing better than most of them. They're all garbage at the minute, it's a tad unfair to single anyone out. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though, so that obviously is upto you.
I’m staying away from the Ashley Williams thread as I don’t want to be banned.
 

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