Current Affairs Liz Truss

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Had the EU remained solely trade Brexit would never have happened. The political element is what scared the UK and likely future countries off and I dont blame em.

To suggest only those who wanted oot were far right bigots and fascists is incorrect and quite frankly libellous man !

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Moomin]

Had the EU remained solely trade Brexit would never have happened. The political element is what scared the UK and likely future countries off and I dont blame em.

To suggest only those who wanted oot were far right bigots and fascists is incorrect and quite frankly libellous man !

Stop being a Soy Boy.

 

[Yarrgh]

Honest question. Who is in charge at the minute?

I have not got a clue.

 

[mahermi1]

She is just asserted her authority until Hunt puts her right again. Which end of the Tory party wags their tail and which end barks I'm confused now.

 

[Martin Alvito]

I think that's a little harsh. The problem with a balanced trade agreement is that it compels legislation from all parties. It can never stay 'just trade', because enforcing a trade agreement requires things like agreeing on standards that ultimately exceed the boundaries of 'just trade'. So, very strictly speaking, you're correct to assert that he is in error on that front.

I also don't think it's incorrect to assert that the EU has moved into areas that have nothing to do with trade, or that some of those policies are broadly unpopular among the UK electorate. The question boils down to: are the benefits of cooperation worth more than the price of complying with policies the electorate doesn't like? That's a question of preferences over outcomes, and how distasteful giving up sovereignty on those issues is. There really isn't a 'right' or 'wrong' answer on that one, which is why the whole problem was so contentious.

The mudslinging doesn't help things.

 

[The binman chronicles]

She is just asserted her authority until Hunt puts her right again. Which end of the Tory party wags their tail and which end barks I'm confused now.

Difficult one this, if they pee off the pensioners then they are really done as a political party but that inflation lock is going to kill the budget. I reckon there might be a compromise where they pay x percent this year and then try and add more on top for the next few years, hoping inflation drops. That way they are both kind of right.

 

[tsubaki]

Suella Braverman is no longer Home Secretary apparently

 

[mightymoyes]

shes fired that fascist pig Braverman, maybe she has a tiny bit of sense after all (more likely someone else has told her she needs to do it)

 

[tsubaki]

Difficult one this, if they pee off the pensioners then they are really done as a political party but that inflation lock is going to kill the budget. I reckon there might be a compromise where they pay x percent this year and then try and add more on top for the next few years, hoping inflation drops. That way they are both kind of right.

TBF I think it (the triple lock) is one of those things that the bubble has convinced itself cannot be cut, and of course it is also one of their vanishingly few achievements, hence why they boast about it all the time.

The reaction to cutting it would almost certainly not be that severe, if there was any reaction to it whatsoever - all they've got to do is tell people that because of the energy price controls (which pensioners are using) that they cannot have the triple lock too, and that its unfair to protect them whilst working people see benefits go up along with earnings. The Tory voting elderly hordes would lap it up.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I think that's a little harsh. The problem with a balanced trade agreement is that it compels legislation from all parties. It can never stay 'just trade', because enforcing a trade agreement requires things like agreeing on standards that ultimately exceed the boundaries of 'just trade'. So, very strictly speaking, you're correct to assert that he is in error on that front.

I also don't think it's incorrect to assert that the EU has moved into areas that have nothing to do with trade, or that some of those policies are broadly unpopular among the UK electorate. The question boils down to: are the benefits of cooperation worth more than the price of complying with policies the electorate doesn't like? That's a question of preferences over outcomes, and how distasteful giving up sovereignty on those issues is. There really isn't a 'right' or 'wrong' answer on that one, which is why the whole problem was so contentious.

The mudslinging doesn't help things.

Meh, he's a wum of the highest order. Absolutely loves the reaction.

*HONK HONK*

 

[mightymoyes]

shes fired that fascist pig Braverman, maybe she has a tiny bit of sense after all (more likely someone else has told her she needs to do it)

yip apparently H(c)unt told her to fire her

 

[roydo]

yip apparently H(c)unt told her to fire her

We rarely police this forum mate, but dont be a divvie eh?

 

[mightymoyes]

We rarely police this forum mate, but dont be a divvie eh?

sorry mate wont do it again.
though hes been called it live on air many a time!

 

[slipstream86]

I think that's a little harsh. The problem with a balanced trade agreement is that it compels legislation from all parties. It can never stay 'just trade', because enforcing a trade agreement requires things like agreeing on standards that ultimately exceed the boundaries of 'just trade'. So, very strictly speaking, you're correct to assert that he is in error on that front.

I also don't think it's incorrect to assert that the EU has moved into areas that have nothing to do with trade, or that some of those policies are broadly unpopular among the UK electorate. The question boils down to: are the benefits of cooperation worth more than the price of complying with policies the electorate doesn't like? That's a question of preferences over outcomes, and how distasteful giving up sovereignty on those issues is. There really isn't a 'right' or 'wrong' answer on that one, which is why the whole problem was so contentious.

The mudslinging doesn't help things.

Wrong forum mate. Logically constructed non-partisan opinions have no place in CA.

Pick your side… but make sure it’s our one …or else.