Leon Osman

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I'm not keen on Fellaini playing in the middle to be honest, as an out and out central midfielder. He can do a job there but I don’t see it as his long term position, especially not alongside Arteta who is the “main man” and will be for a few years. In a midfield three or behind the striker I’d like to see him play, in a more advanced position.

Realistically we should be looking at big, strong central midfielder who’s mobile and can compliment Mikel. Similar to what Mbia would’ve given us if he’d have joined, obviously I wouldn’t want him but that type of player.

I’m happy with Neville and Arteta at the moment, they give us excellent balance and a good base to build on. If we wanted to bring Jo or Saha into the picture in games coming up then I think it would be interesting to see Cahill and Arteta centrally with Fellaini behind Saha or Jo.

I’ve always said that if we get someone who can create and defend then Cahill could fit in there nicely, someone who can give him the freedom to get up and down aswell as taking up the creative role. Arteta has turned out to be that player who can do both jobs. Arteta could sit (like he does) and keep the play moving and Cahill could get up and down. I’d rather see that than Fellaini-Arteta, it’s a quicker combination and more solid In my opinion.
 
Im not keen on Fellaini or Cahill playing in the deeper role, i think both offer us more in an advanced role, i dont think either have the right skills for a deeper role, Mikel cant play there on his own either, if he had to much defensive dutys it would prevent his attacking flair.

We need a defensive minded midfielder, we have 1, his name is Jack Rodwell, but infairness the lads only 17, so maybe its a case of Captain Pip filling in till Jack gets a bit older.

Midfield is not a postion i think we need strengthening in. Centrally anyway, i think if we can get Vaughan and maybe Saha fit and hopefully if Jo works out, then the only players we need in the Summer are wide men.

If we can get a pacy winger or 2, we will be amazing.
 
MikelsGoat said:
Im not keen on Fellaini or Cahill playing in the deeper role, i think both offer us more in an advanced role, i dont think either have the right skills for a deeper role, Mikel cant play there on his own either, if he had to much defensive dutys it would prevent his attacking flair.

We need a defensive minded midfielder, we have 1, his name is Jack Rodwell, but infairness the lads only 17, so maybe its a case of Captain Pip filling in till Jack gets a bit older.

Midfield is not a postion i think we need strengthening in. Centrally anyway, i think if we can get Vaughan and maybe Saha fit and hopefully if Jo works out, then the only players we need in the Summer are wide men.

If we can get a pacy winger or 2, we will be amazing.
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I'm talking more about now to be honest, this season.

Jo or Saha will eventually get a game and it'll be interesting to see how Moyes lines up. Who he'll drop? I reckon Hibbert with Neville moving to right back and one of Cahill or Fellaini dropping deeper. I hope it's Cahill to be honest.

Arteta fine on his own, it's not like he needs protection. He's as good defensively as Neville and sits just as deep (bar yesterday).
 
This season, failing injurys, Moyes has got options, i mean im sure he saw Gosling and Rodwell in training, so he knew they could play, but i suppose he didnt know how well they could play under pressure. I KNOW the RS had 10 men, but the lads didnt just perform, they shone.

So he knows if needs be, he can turn to them, gives him options, i mean we can all see that a lot of the players are tired and could do with a rest and we got Jo now, who i suppose could do with a game or 2, lets see what he offers us. But whos to say Moyes wont just pick the same team again on Saturday, failing that, i think hes going to pick the team around the new formation.

If players arent fit they will be replaced like for like, hes going to be faced with some tough choices. Fellaini - Cahill, Neville - Hibbert to name a few. But im happy and im also sure Moyes is happy he can now make these decsions. Its not a case of turning up and who ever can walk plays.
 
I think Fellaini's future is alongside Arteta, cuz he does have the skills to be a box-to-box mid, in fact that is the role he played for standard alongside Defour who if you think about it is the same type of player Arteta is, and he was very good at that role, the only thing Fellaini is lacking is quickness, but he can make up for that when he gains more experience and learn to get himself in better position defensibly. He is physical, he win balls, and he is a good passer.

The only reason most people likes him as an attacking mid or a striker is because he is a big presence inside the box and he is great at heading the ball, but he can't take on any defender one on one and he is not a good shooter so he doesn't give us a hole lot as a striker. He has done an admirable job playing up front (he and Cahill) but that's not his natural position. Anyway I love Fellaini and hope he does great in any position (y) but I honestly think he will help our team more playing as a box-to-box mid.
 

Well at the moment he lacks defensive postioning, defensive tenacity and he cant tackle for [Poor language removed]. Hopefully that will come, i mean hes come on a lot since his first game, its a learning curve, its possibly not going to be untill next season we see him shine.

Maybe a good solid pre-season, learning the defensive aspect in games, but at the moment i dont think hes ready for defensive dutys. I think he is a box-to-box midfielder in some respect. Not in the Gerrard mould, but his build play is normally solid and his ball retention also. He is a buffer, he gets the ball and gives it simple, then advances and repeats. Hes not ever as you say going to hit them from 40 yards or drop his shoulder and send dummys. Hes still a raw talent in Premiership terms, but he can be whatever he wants to be in my eyes.
 
I agree with you 100%. It might not be until next season we see him shine.
He's been improving throughout the season and he can definitely become a great player. It's just that you look at his body and he is built to be a box-to-box mid :D you know I just want him to do great.
 
He can't run though, that's the problem I have with him. He's immobile and he isn't going to get any quicker. He'll get better but he'll always be slow. Lets be honest.

I think he's ace, he brings alot to the side and he will do in the future. Realistically though I think it'll be from an advanced position, he'll benefit the team more from there.

Either that or Moyes reverts to 4-3-3, if he does then Fellaini will be fine. He'll be excellent in there.
 
Well i agree, a big part of the "DM" role is closing down, tracking back, chasing players, at the moment i dont think he could do that. I agree he is slow, but he is quite gangly, maybe if he starts to fill out he might get more mobile. I mean balancing that wonderful afro on his head must be hard.

But he doesnt have to be quick, hes a big unit and with better postional sense its all about placement rather than speed. But i really do see his future role more advanced, the only problem then is to find a way of playing Fellaini, Cahill, Yakubu, Arteta and Pienaar in the same team.
 
MikelsGoat said:
Well i agree, a big part of the "DM" role is closing down, tracking back, chasing players, at the moment i dont think he could do that. I agree he is slow, but he is quite gangly, maybe if he starts to fill out he might get more mobile. I mean balancing that wonderful afro on his head must be hard.

But he doesnt have to be quick, hes a big unit and with better postional sense its all about placement rather than speed. But i really do see his future role more advanced, the only problem then is to find a way of playing Fellaini, Cahill, Yakubu, Arteta and Pienaar in the same team.
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Well Cahill's 29 now so he's not going to be around forever. Fellaini will probably take over from him, that's what I'm hoping for.

I just can't see it happening for him as an out and out central midfielder, I know alot of people disagree with me but I can't see it. You can get away with lack of pace if your hard working and tenacious, like Osman for example. Fellaini doesn’t work that hard though, he’s not a runner.

He’s also a drifter, he likes to move around the pitch. He’s not a Carrick type player, he doesn’t sit and he isn’t disciplined. He’s naturally end up running out of position and leaving us exposed.

I hope I’m wrong though, I very well could be. I’d love him to make central midfield his own but that’s just how I see it. I can see him complimenting the team from a different position. Potentially (in a few years) I see it like this:

----------Rodwell----------Arteta----------

--------------------Fellaini-----------------
 

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