Latest Takeover Rumour. The Moores / Noell one

[Azza]

I get peoples apprehension about a takeover, but it wouldn't take much effort to do better than the current board and Elstone, even if we don't get £500m to spend on players, its the other business operations of the football club should improve massively compared to what happens now.

 

[Dr Baxter]

I agree to a point mate, it would have looked fantastic and would've blew Liverpool's stadium out of the water (no pun intended), due to it's location and with the Liver Buildings so close by.

Parking may have been an issue though. If you ever go to the Echo Arena for an event, a full house is circa 10,000 and the traffic is murder. 50,000 for a footy match in the same location would've been horrific. They would've had to put in place all sorts of park and ride schemes and knowing how busy that area has become, I can't imagine how they'd have done that. There's no way any fans on a matchday would've been allowed to park within a few miles of the ground.

I think the traffic is murder, precisely because they DID build a car park. As I recall, if it had been a home to EFC the car park provision would have been tiny, as fans would have been encouraged to use other means of transport than the car (see my earlier post) or park away from the stadium in various city centre car parks so as not to cause any bottle necks.

 

[zirc]

http://sidespin.kinja.com/the-padres-suck-heres-why-472930403

right, there's no actual reason or historical precedent that would suggest grounds for skepticism. clearly, mental deficiency is the only possible reason why anyone could still have reservations. it logically follows that everything is going to be wonderful forever.

FFS

if we're going to create half-assed psychological profiles for each other, how about this: the kind of people who have already decided, based on very limited information, that new ownership will definitely, unambiguously, 100%, only be an entirely good thing are subprime mortage-holding pyramid-scheme fodder, but its okay, cause a nigerian prince will in touch any day now to sort things...

That article was posted over two months ago and to date is the only piece with any sort of harsh criticism of Moores. I'm not saying skepticism is wrong; it's healthy. But I think you fail to understand how low the bar has been set by the current ownership. We're talking about things being worse because a new owner might potentially asset strip the club and/or relegate us. If he doesn't do that, he's at least as good as BK and co.

So basically the only way a new owner could be worse than the current board is in a highly unlikely, worst case crash scenario.

It's like reelecting the same shitty politicians because you've at least still got running water and electricity and the new guy might shut those off too.

 

[davids]

I get peoples apprehension about a takeover, but it wouldn't take much effort to do better than the current board and Elstone, even if we don't get £500m to spend on players, its the other business operations of the football club should improve massively compared to what happens now.

I agree with that,sadly if we don't get a guaranteed amount to strengthen the squad and our league position doesn't keep improving to a EL qualification at least.I think it'll spell a goodbye to Rom,Stones and maybe even Ross.

 

[kev]

I think some people are simply scared of change and like the routine and order they have in their lives. The most vociferous objectors to a move will likely be those that park in the same place every week after nipping to the same shop/pub/chippie for whatever floats their prematch boat, programme from the same bloke on the same street corner etc etc..........

They will simply need to open thier eyes, allow some reasoned and logical debate to enter thier minds, embrace the change and try a new routine.

THIS
I love Goodison as much as anybody. I love the drive there. I love the familiarity of the sounds and the smells. The walk up to the ground from MY parking space. I love the fact that I see many of the same faces in the same places, even if it is two or three months between attending games (can't get to too many matches these days) It just FEELS right.
BUT change is always daunting, and the time has come.
It's like moving out of the home where you grew up and into a new house. So many memories and emotions connected to the old place, but when you've been at your new house for a while you begin to think of it as home and you wonder why you didn't make the move years ago.

 

[anton66]

e this.

Goodison is home to the worst atmosphere in the league[/QUOTE

The worst?

 

[royalbalou]

THIS
I love Goodison as much as anybody. I love the drive there. I love the familiarity of the sounds and the smells. The walk up to the ground from MY parking space. I love the fact that I see many of the same faces in the same places, even if it is two or three months between attending games (can't get to too many matches these days) It just FEELS right.
BUT change is always daunting, and the time has come.
It's like moving out of the home where you grew up and into a new house. So many memories and emotions connected to the old place, but when you've been at your new house for a while you begin to think of it as home and you wonder why you didn't make the move years ago.

Totally agree...I remember when Goodison became all-seater, was gutted as my youth was spent standing on the terraces...but you get used to the change and it becomes the norm.
It's a bit bigger actually moving stadiums...but the stadium is nothing without the fans...and the fans will always be the same moaning sods that have always attended..we'll just moan about unobstructed views and more leg room instead...the chang will still be just as warm...lovely!

 

[billytoffee]

True this.

The thing is, if we move to a new stadium we don't even have the excuse that the "atmosphere" will be lost. Goodison is home to the worst atmosphere in the league so if anything, the new stadium may improve things in that respect.

We need to move. Goodison is outdated, and although it will be hard to go, it will benefit us in the long run.

For a club with our fanbase, a stadium that only holds 39,500 ish isn't good enough. Those who like to run the club down will say that we "don't have the fans" for a 50,000 seater but I disagree.

Man City saw their crowds go from 33,000 to 46,000 with their stadium move and that was while they were coming in the bottom half. Our future looks promising and last season we sold out 12 home games, despite having the most obstructed views in the league. An obstructed view ticket gives you a £1 discount. So you have some games where an obstructed view ticket could cost you £45 for a big game at Goodison. People are much more likely to turn up in a brand new stadium. Our away support also gives an indication of our matchgoing fanbase and its potential as well.

Absolutely agree - I think far too many of us underestimate the impact of the negative aspects of the Goodison experience such as the obstructed views.

I attended every home game as a kid from the age of about 7 through to when I left home in Liverpool at 16. My visists since then have been limited to an average of 3 or 4 times a year over the last 34 years, often with my children and the arl fella brought along. My trips are more often than not at short notice and that means that the majority of the time we have the dreaded obstructed view option only. There are times where the impact has not been that bad (and at least I've got the kids in positions they could see most of the game) and there are times where i have questioned if i would ever come back (but of course I always will).

I long for the day where just that aspect could be removed from the debate! and find it incredible that the dross across the park are appernetly generating more obstructed vies with thier latest addition

 

[Jacko93]

No he always does it 2 days before the game. It's always Thursday for a Saturday game. Darren Griffiths mentioned it a while back on some EFC supporters evening thing I went to. Martinez likes the day before a game to be focused solely on the following days' game with no press duties.

Its also because by doing tat he can maximise the press exposure. there tends to be no conflicts with other clubs in the region.

 

[Kiwi]

I'm still apprehensive about this potential new ownership group, mostly because we don't and won't know their plans for the club until ownership changes hands. That being said it would be the same with any new ownership group and so we can only speculate with the information we have in front of us.

In my opinion they are unlikely to be worse than this current ownership group, who would have been chased out of town if it wasn't for Bill fronting them. Failed stadium moves, a club mired in debt, its stadium mortgaged and all other assets sold with no trophies won and a decade long failure to search for investment is hardly the gold standard of ownership.
Our relative performance on the pitch has struck a strong contrast to this.
These suggested new owners are likely (in my eyes in anycase) to provide strong business connections allowing us to improve on our commercial and marketing weaknesses aa things stand currently. They will likely see the clubs strong historical tradition and community roots as something to be marketed and that can grow the club in U.S and foreign markets, and as such they will genuinely consider redeveloping Goodison. It is in their best interests to protect and promote our traditions and history.
They ought to have the coin to recapitalise the club as it has desperately needed to be for a long time.

Their long term plan may well be to make a profit off the club, but in order to do so they will likely provide a stadia solution and revolutionise the commercial arm of the club. This in my eyes is what the club needs to take itself forward and will provide additional funds to create success on the pitch.
The club has grown stale and is stagnating under current board leadership, in spite of the exciting project taking place on the pitch.
Hopefully this change of ownership will provide us with the spark to take our club to the next level.

 

[chicoazul]

Keep Goodison Geordie free, ban vaping NOW.

 

[blueboy1664]

I can't really judge to be honest as I rarely get to to go but he was deadly serious. Just can't bear the the thought of leaving Goodison.

God he must have a sad life...for a long while it has been like a morgue, [Poor language removed] facilities, poor catering, obstructed views and the list goes on ...but yes the old lady under the lights...those were the days

For me , yes goodison is our history but we have to move on. ..we need to make matchday good value and affordable... i want my children and their chilildren to cherish supporting EFC and match day.

To compete, we need facilities that are exciting and create a set up that is self sufficient, vibrant and gives the club extra revenue on and off matchday!

Sky money will not be here forever, how will we survive when it hapoens...i for one wouldnt pay a fortune unless is was value for money.

I have been to virtually every away ground of late....goodison is not so special, our away fans make a more excitable atmosphere with far less numbers than any atmosphere i have been at GP bar the odd special game.... just my thoughts....

 

[ijjysmith]

God he must have a sad life...for a long while it has been like a morgue, [Poor language removed] facilities, poor catering, obstructed views and the list goes on ...but yes the old lady under the lights...those were the days

For me , yes goodison is our history but we have to move on. ..we need to make matchday good value and affordable... i want my children and their chilildren to cherish supporting EFC and match day.

To compete, we need facilities that are exciting and create a set up that is self sufficient, vibrant and gives the club extra revenue on and off matchday!

Sky money will not be here forever, how will we survive when it hapoens...i for one wouldnt pay a fortune unless is was value for money.

I have been to virtually every away ground of late....goodison is not so special, our away fans make a more excitable atmosphere with far less numbers than any atmosphere i have been at GP bar the odd special game.... just my thoughts....

I can confirm he does not.

 

[Neiler]

I think as a club we have a warped and idealistic concept of what a take over actually is and what happens - its happened rarely in our history, sometimes for better and sometimes for the worse. It is also the first time that the ownership situation will go international, which is relevant to anyone who remembers the ousting of Johnson.

We need to be on guard here and no mistake, there is a hell of a lot that can go wrong here - more so then what can go right.

Being honest i don't like the look of this from the outset.

 

[technojoe]

Keep Goodison Geordie free, ban vaping NOW.

Vaping rocks! in fact Everton need to make there own brand e.g - Bainseys bootlace juice - Vanilla and Cress flavor.....16mg etc