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evertonianstu
Player Valuation: £10m
hmmmmmm, not an expert on this by any stretch but it seems that there are real problems with this development. I thought it was a go-er a few weeks ago but there are real obstacles in the way of this whole scheme coming off.
Just hope the club have a plan B of where to go next!
Just hope the club have a plan B of where to go next!
coyney
Player Valuation: £35m
When have we ever had a plan B remember the kings dock fiascohmmmmmm, not an expert on this by any stretch but it seems that there are real problems with this development. I thought it was a go-er a few weeks ago but there are real obstacles in the way of this whole scheme coming off.
Just hope the club have a plan B of where to go next!
linglong
Player Valuation: £25m
Oh dear..
And on a side note can we as a club take on any sort of new debt that always comes with a new stadium? i have big doubts that this should go through (then again i always have had tbh) becuase if a deal looks to good to be tue then it usually is.
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DENNIS STEVENS
Player Valuation: £20m
i'm no expert, but i'd have thought an underground car park might be undesirable on a flood plain.
didn't they have to switch some of the park & ride to park & walk due to their inability to source sufficient buses? so now more people will have to walk even further to get to their cars.
Sim
Player Valuation: £8m
Well it will be generating us more money once its built. Of course its going to stretch us, a new stadium would stretch any team in the world, but the prizes once its built should pay for it.
garyasp_1878
Player Valuation: £150k
This just seems to becoming more and more farcical everytime more news comes up about it. Too many obstacles which is only going to stretch the cost in which EFC have to pay towards. "Deliverable"?? Bollocks!!!
uknightbreed
Player Valuation: £35m
yep i have to agree its a bloody laugh.
if residents dont want the site to go ahead , then moving a car park to ground level instead of in a basement etc wont change a god damn thing !
imo its a cost cutting and downsizing exercise hidden behind a bluff of 'appeasing locals'.
ps i still say screw the keioc campaign !
there principal and motivation is right but there argument and reasoning is wrong.
if residents dont want the site to go ahead , then moving a car park to ground level instead of in a basement etc wont change a god damn thing !
imo its a cost cutting and downsizing exercise hidden behind a bluff of 'appeasing locals'.
ps i still say screw the keioc campaign !
there principal and motivation is right but there argument and reasoning is wrong.
The underground car park has been rebranded as an indoor swimming pool.
evertonianstu
Player Valuation: £10m
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article3754144.ece
Times seems positive on it all!
Times seems positive on it all!
McBain
Player Valuation: £80m
This is a comment, probably a longer one than normal, or it could just be short and sweet. Im a bit tired is all.
This topic always amazes me. There is always such negativity around this. It seems to me the people of your parts are so happy with there current lives and surroundings that the very notion of something bigger, better or shinier is akin to sacrelige.
I wont ever get this argument unless I go to goodison and surrounds, breathe it in and decide that any possible change to this idyllic nirvana would be like the melting of the icecaps, the destruction of the ganges delta, or the decision by the good people at twisties not to make barbeque zigzag flavour anymore.
The thought of building a new stadium, of opening a series of designer shops archecturally penned by some functional swedish master who spent the formative years of his career sweeping the floors and smelling the treated pine at ikea. Strong clean lines of modern concrete and steel and timber layed in the foundation of the original ideals of the school of science; to sweetly relax in a cafe with a coffee or in the retrospectively designed tav knocking back a scoop while disecting the game makes me feel like we have not just a club being built but the resurection of a fundimental.
You should be upbeat in the fact that the club has harnessed the commercial forces and is channeling them to try to bury the ghosts of past success and build the next generations community.
You have every right to see that each stage is adressed with not whats best for you but whats best for the club, for the community at large and for the people who will visit the area and who will want to visit and spend there offshore dollars in a place that they have always wanted to make the pilgramage back. I know I do.
I just want to get why you think a supermarket is a bad thing, a feature of modern life you can do without. Its a supermarket, a business. Maybe Joe the local butcher gets put out of work because the meat inside the supermarket is cheaper? Wally the farmer is out of work because the cows come from somewhere else? I dont know. Surely then you have to adapt and sell your cows to the supermarket instead. Maybe you dont want a new stadium and want to go to Goodison forever? Maybe the design is all wrong and you could do a better job, like putting a cool spoiler on the stadium and a racing stripe down the side. It seems the problems associated with this development are letting the public have too much input into its conception.
Jesus could rise again and fly down the high street and still half the population wouldnt blink an eye and turn back to what they were doing. My point is that maybe the fear of change is a very English thing? I dont know. Im English at heart and I love seeing something new. Surley though you have to accept that the wheel has to reinvented every generation for the very sake of life itself. Madonna is a case in point. What was new and exciting a free to a young man in the 70's is as old a hat to the same man in 2008?
I just havent seen any constructive critisism of this plan. Anyone saying what a clever plan for a club with no money to pin their revival on a financial juggernaught capable of absorbing the massive cost in rebranding itself.
Moyes is doing the cut and paste job on the field as the board are off it. You have to give them that.
And Ill hand it to you to if youve stayed with me this far, understand what this fair dinkum outsider is saying and have a answer to my ponderings which you will kindly post below.
This topic always amazes me. There is always such negativity around this. It seems to me the people of your parts are so happy with there current lives and surroundings that the very notion of something bigger, better or shinier is akin to sacrelige.
I wont ever get this argument unless I go to goodison and surrounds, breathe it in and decide that any possible change to this idyllic nirvana would be like the melting of the icecaps, the destruction of the ganges delta, or the decision by the good people at twisties not to make barbeque zigzag flavour anymore.
The thought of building a new stadium, of opening a series of designer shops archecturally penned by some functional swedish master who spent the formative years of his career sweeping the floors and smelling the treated pine at ikea. Strong clean lines of modern concrete and steel and timber layed in the foundation of the original ideals of the school of science; to sweetly relax in a cafe with a coffee or in the retrospectively designed tav knocking back a scoop while disecting the game makes me feel like we have not just a club being built but the resurection of a fundimental.
You should be upbeat in the fact that the club has harnessed the commercial forces and is channeling them to try to bury the ghosts of past success and build the next generations community.
You have every right to see that each stage is adressed with not whats best for you but whats best for the club, for the community at large and for the people who will visit the area and who will want to visit and spend there offshore dollars in a place that they have always wanted to make the pilgramage back. I know I do.
I just want to get why you think a supermarket is a bad thing, a feature of modern life you can do without. Its a supermarket, a business. Maybe Joe the local butcher gets put out of work because the meat inside the supermarket is cheaper? Wally the farmer is out of work because the cows come from somewhere else? I dont know. Surely then you have to adapt and sell your cows to the supermarket instead. Maybe you dont want a new stadium and want to go to Goodison forever? Maybe the design is all wrong and you could do a better job, like putting a cool spoiler on the stadium and a racing stripe down the side. It seems the problems associated with this development are letting the public have too much input into its conception.
Jesus could rise again and fly down the high street and still half the population wouldnt blink an eye and turn back to what they were doing. My point is that maybe the fear of change is a very English thing? I dont know. Im English at heart and I love seeing something new. Surley though you have to accept that the wheel has to reinvented every generation for the very sake of life itself. Madonna is a case in point. What was new and exciting a free to a young man in the 70's is as old a hat to the same man in 2008?
I just havent seen any constructive critisism of this plan. Anyone saying what a clever plan for a club with no money to pin their revival on a financial juggernaught capable of absorbing the massive cost in rebranding itself.
Moyes is doing the cut and paste job on the field as the board are off it. You have to give them that.
And Ill hand it to you to if youve stayed with me this far, understand what this fair dinkum outsider is saying and have a answer to my ponderings which you will kindly post below.
Can't say if it's an English thing but many don't appear to like anything that's different.
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