Current Affairs Labour and Anti Semitism.......

[Moomin]

Leaders had credibility- Labour was never a party within a party - it was not anti Semitic - Momentum have taken over on a £3 membership fee...
I support my trade Union as retired I am a life member!
This is not socialism it's Marxism !

Leaders had credibility- Labour was never a party within a party - it was not anti Semitic - Momentum have taken over on a £3 membership fee...
I support my trade Union as retired I am a life member!
This is not socialism it's Marxism !

If Labour is anti semitic, so are the Tories.

 

[roydo]

As for the trade unions, Labour have already said that they will reverse all of the anti-Union laws passed since the 1970s.

Blimey. Really??

I know you were not born back then, and I am 100% certain your Dad/Grandfather (?) would be full square behind that.

But it was not great mate. For most people.

 

[Number_25]

Blimey. Really??

I know you were not born back then, and I am 100% certain your Dad/Grandfather (?) would be full square behind that.

But it was not great mate. For most people.

My 'arl man is a communist, and my grandfather was a Trot. They'd probably disagree(!)

Believe it or not, I'm actually fairly moderate compared to them.

 

[Blues Harp]

Blimey. Really??

I know you were not born back then, and I am 100% certain your Dad/Grandfather (?) would be full square behind that.

But it was not great mate. For most people.

Because of the draconian Trade union laws Thatcher brought in to destroy the TU movement and working class people....I was there mate..

 

[roydo]

Because of the draconian Trade union laws Thatcher brought in to destroy the TU movement and working class people....I was there mate..

Same here. But the irony is, or was, those rules she attacked was at least part of the reason she got in in the first place. Folk were fed right up with the antics at the time.

 

[Number_25]

Same here. But the irony is, or was, those rules she attacked was at least part of the reason she got in in the first place. Folk were fed right up with the antics at the time.

Coal, not dole mate.

 

[roydo]

Coal, not dole mate.

That was quite a few years after she got in mate.

One of the reasons she did, was because a lot of folk were cheesed off with the actions of some unions, Rightly, wrongly, its largely irrelevant. But they were.

 

[Number_25]

That was quite a few years after she got in mate.

One of the reasons she did, was because a lot of folk were cheesed off with the actions of some unions, Rightly, wrongly, its largely irrelevant. But they were.

Mines were being closed down before her, but at least Callaghan had a vision for post-Coal industries throughout South Wales**.

Thatcher couldn't care less. On your bike, wasn't it?

**If you have a chance, get a copy of Crisis? What crisis?, superb insight into the Callaghan administration.

 

[Blues Harp]

That was quite a few years after she got in mate.

One of the reasons she did, was because a lot of folk were cheesed off with the actions of some unions, Rightly, wrongly, its largely irrelevant. But they were.

A lot of people were "cheesed off" because they swallowed the anti union crap fed to them by the media at the time....but fighting for workers' rights is a bad thing isn't it? Orgreave was only 5 years after Thatcher was elected...her government had planned to take on the NUM after Heath lost in 1974. Its certainly not "irrelevant " to the people who lost their jobs is it?

 

[roydo]

A lot of people were "cheesed off" because they swallowed the anti union crap fed to them by the media at the time....but fighting for workers' rights is a bad thing isn't it? Orgreave was only 5 years after Thatcher was elected...her government had planned to take on the NUM after Heath lost in 1974. Its certainly not "irrelevant " to the people who lost their jobs is it?

Fighting for workers rights obvs isnt a bad thing.

I was about 15 back then, and the country seemed a bit knackered to me, if I am honest. The point I was making wasnt a pro Thatcher one, it was in relation to the LP saying they would repeal all the union rules from 1970 onwards. Under the rules back then, the unions, well some, seemed to this observer anyrate, to piss a lot of folk off. Ergo, Thatcher. Ergo, the irony.

 

[Number_25]

Fighting for workers rights obvs isnt a bad thing.

I was about 15 back then, and the country seemed a bit knackered to me, if I am honest. The point I was making wasnt a pro Thatcher one, it was in relation to the LP saying they would repeal all the union rules from 1970 onwards. Under the rules back then, the unions, well some, seemed to this observer anyrate, to piss a lot of folk off. Ergo, Thatcher. Ergo, the irony.

I'm 25 and it seems a bit knackered to me too.

 

[roydo]

I'm 25 and it seems a bit knackered to me too.

Me too mate.

 

[Number_25]

Me too mate.

So lets actually do something about it.

 

[roydo]

So lets actually do something about it.

My idea is too radical, even for you. Thought it out ages ago.

 

[Number_25]

My idea is too radical, even for you. Thought it out ages ago.

Fully automated luxury gay space communism?