Koeman on Twitter

[Barnfred 55]

Naw, Dave's all right, he's just a stroppy bugger who'll often take a contrary view just for the sake of devilment, something I would never do.

Obviously that makes it hard to judge if he's serious or not, so I tend to assume he's not.
You mean like, as in WUM?


I was on a roll while berating dave and Prev mate, so your post was just there asking to be included.

 

[Woolly Blue]

You mean like, as in WUM?

Wummery, if done tongue in cheek, has it's place. When it's overdone, it's all too easy to just become a troll.

On the whole, unlike one or two others, (well one really ) I could mention, but won't, I personally don't consider dave to be a troll.

Anyway, if I can remember my twitter username and password, I'm going to follow Koeman as a sign of my appreciation of his openness.

 

[Prevenger17]

The thing is Dave, you keep on saying that you genuinely like Koeman, then lay into him with gusto the second he does something you don't agree with.

I'm not saying we have to lavish praise on him for everything he does, or that he should get anything approaching a free ride. I personally was more disappointed by his dismissive reaction to our cup defeat against Norwich, than I was by the performance itself. I believe he needs to be accountable for his actions and take both criticism and credit when applicable.

It's not the fact that you criticised him over the Barkley affair; it was the way in which you totally vilified him like it was a capital offence or something. You were like a dog with a bone for weeks afterwards and you're till bringing it up now. And it's the same with this twitter thing. He's not said or done anything wrong yet, but you're acting like he's dragging the club through the gutters.

I've just feel as though you have been waiting for Koeman to somehow slip up so you launch into him. That's not usual behaviour towards somebody you genuinely like.

By the way, I agree with you that there probably is too much deference shown by some on here. The last thing we need is some form of Kloppmania creeping in. But I think the vast majority are just giving him some time to turn things around which is how it should be.

Relax mate

 

[davek]

The thing is Dave, you keep on saying that you genuinely like Koeman, then lay into him with gusto the second he does something you don't agree with.

I'm not saying we have to lavish praise on him for everything he does, or that he should get anything approaching a free ride. I personally was more disappointed by his dismissive reaction to our cup defeat against Norwich, than I was by the performance itself. I believe he needs to be accountable for his actions and take both criticism and credit when applicable.

It's not the fact that you criticised him over the Barkley affair; it was the way in which you totally vilified him like it was a capital offence or something. You were like a dog with a bone for weeks afterwards and you're till bringing it up now. And it's the same with this twitter thing. He's not said or done anything wrong yet, but you're acting like he's dragging the club through the gutters.

I've just feel as though you have been waiting for Koeman to somehow slip up so you launch into him. That's not usual behaviour towards somebody you genuinely like.

By the way, I agree with you that there probably is too much deference shown by some on here. The last thing we need is some form of Kloppmania creeping in. But I think the vast majority are just giving him some time to turn things around which is how it should be.

On Barkley: I just dont think it's right for any manager to be singling out a player in public. It's ok if he's generally chewing players out as part of a unit or the whole team itself, but not individually. Koeman would disagree profoundly with that though. He gave Carragher an interview the other week; he was asked by him whether that sort of thing (him as a manager having a go in public at Barkley) was something we were too squeamish about in this country and he said he thought we were. His justification was that Barkley had been a PL for some time and that he needed telling to shape up. He said he'd told the player first and so that sequence of events (private conversation then public criticism) was acceptable as far as he was concerned. I dont. It'd sow the seeds of doubt in every players mind to think they were discussing something in private and then the manager at his whim could then make it public. It sows the seeds of division. You can only rule by force of will for so long. Maybe that's why Koeman keeps moving around.

As for the twitter stuff: I said originally that one photo he tweeted was the type of thing that Klopp would have been slaughtered for. It then spiralled out to a more general debate about the appropriateness of twitter in the PL manager's armoury. Someone else organised this poll, not me.

 

[davek]

Wummery, if done tongue in cheek, has it's place. When it's overdone, it's all too easy to just become a troll.

On the whole, unlike one or two others, (well one really ) I could mention, but won't, I personally don't consider dave to be a troll.

Anyway, if I can remember my twitter username and password, I'm going to follow Koeman as a sign of my appreciation of his openness.

I do become obsessive about some stuff. That's my 'crime' I think. I also dont like ignoring posts, which can come across as trying too hard.

I must try and remember to multi-quote as I've been told.

 

[Goat]

. Someone else organised this poll, not me.

lollollol

 

[Barnfred 55]

Wummery, if done tongue in cheek, has it's place. When it's overdone, it's all too easy to just become a troll.

On the whole, unlike one or two others, (well one really ) I could mention, but won't, I personally don't consider dave to be a troll.

Anyway, if I can remember my twitter username and password, I'm going to follow Koeman as a sign of my appreciation of his openness.

I don't think Dave's a troll either. I like Dave

 

[Barnfred 55]

Relax mate

I am mate. Been watching the under 21s.

 

[davek]

lollollol

Problem lad?

 

[Goat]

Problem lad?

No David, I sent you a little message.

xx

 

[davek]

No David, I sent you a little message.

xx

 

[Woolly Blue]

I like Dave

I wouldn't go that far.

 

[tlefc]

At least Twitter gives us a good platform to hound him out of the club if it all goes wrong.

 

[blueblue]

On Barkley: I just dont think it's right for any manager to be singling out a player in public. It's ok if he's generally chewing players out as part of a unit or the whole team itself, but not individually. Koeman would disagree profoundly with that though. He gave Carragher an interview the other week; he was asked by him whether that sort of thing (him as a manager having a go in public at Barkley) was something we were too squeamish about in this country and he said he thought we were. His justification was that Barkley had been a PL for some time and that he needed telling to shape up. He said he'd told the player first and so that sequence of events (private conversation then public criticism) was acceptable as far as he was concerned. I dont. It'd sow the seeds of doubt in every players mind to think they were discussing something in private and then the manager at his whim could then make it public. It sows the seeds of division. You can only rule by force of will for so long. Maybe that's why Koeman keeps moving around.

As for the twitter stuff: I said originally that one photo he tweeted was the type of thing that Klopp would have been slaughtered for. It then spiralled out to a more general debate about the appropriateness of twitter in the PL manager's armoury. Someone else organised this poll, not me.

Dave.
I think they may be trying to toughen Barkley up a little. A professional footballer needs a thick skin and a belief in their own ability.
Barkley seems to lack those qualities and I think the previous manager used positivity and praise to keep his spirits and confidence up.
Koeman seems to taking a different tack , Barkley is now an experienced premiership player and an international footballer and needs to take the responsibility that is expected of him on his shoulders.
I think it has not fully dawned on Barkley that he is no longer a talented youngster but is an experienced pro.

 

[Barnfred 55]

On Barkley: I just dont think it's right for any manager to be singling out a player in public. It's ok if he's generally chewing players out as part of a unit or the whole team itself, but not individually. Koeman would disagree profoundly with that though. He gave Carragher an interview the other week; he was asked by him whether that sort of thing (him as a manager having a go in public at Barkley) was something we were too squeamish about in this country and he said he thought we were. His justification was that Barkley had been a PL for some time and that he needed telling to shape up. He said he'd told the player first and so that sequence of events (private conversation then public criticism) was acceptable as far as he was concerned. I dont. It'd sow the seeds of doubt in every players mind to think they were discussing something in private and then the manager at his whim could then make it public. It sows the seeds of division. You can only rule by force of will for so long. Maybe that's why Koeman keeps moving around.

As for the twitter stuff: I said originally that one photo he tweeted was the type of thing that Klopp would have been slaughtered for. It then spiralled out to a more general debate about the appropriateness of twitter in the PL manager's armoury. Someone else organised this poll, not me.

Didn't see that interview mate. Don't like Carragher so cba watching it. If that's what he said well I don't really agree with it either to be honest. At the time I thought it was just a case of him answering questions put to him honestly, and that may well still be the case tbf. I recall him getting annoyed with reporters who kept on pressing him on the subject of Ross, which I thought was good.

What's this picture from twitter. I'm intrigued now. Every post I've seen, apart from the photo's of Debbie, have all been boring.