Jose Mourinho is boss

[Steve0]

For Wenger’s three FA Cups I could counter with league finishes becoming lower and lower. Finishing outside the top 4 for a club like Arsenal is just not an option. He did it once and kept his job. Two years in a row was too much. Did you see arsenal’s away record last year? Off the top of my head I’m pretty sure they didn’t win away from home until March all season and had one of the worst records across the entire footballing pyramid. It was up there with ours. Not to mention the spankings they’ve received from the other big 6 the last decade. 8-2 at old Trafford will always be unforgivable and he’s had plenty more drubbings since then. I should point out I liked Wenger- but it was clearly time for him to go. Again, I go back to their abysmal away record as just an indicator of how far they’ve fallen with him in charge. Plus I don’t believe it’s “easy” to win an FA Cup. But everyone knows winning leagues and champions leagues are the stuff the serious football sides are made of. Portsmouth have won an fa Cup the last decade. Swansea have won a league cup. Wigan got relegated whilst winning a cup- in cup football anything can happen. Over the course of a season the champions elect have to be consistently the best side.

For Poch he is consistently improving a team without hardly spending any money. He’s has a net spend of £30 million in his time there. That’s insane in this day and age for a team consistently finishing in the top 4. He’s doing a great job. Admittedly the trophies aren’t there, but let’s face it spurs don’t exactly win trophies historically do they? Put it this way if we could have something similar under Silva to their time under Poch, would that really not be a success?

As for Klopp, I’d put forward similar arguments to Poch, however this season they’ve really gone big in the transfer window so he has no excuses. The bigger picture though is that with both these managers there seems to be a plan, a clear strategy. What’s mourinho’s plan? Spend a load of money to plug gaps? Well the transfer window is shut now, so he has no option but to use the tools at his disposal. But right now he doesn’t look capable of formulating a plan. In an era where City are reaching 100 points defensive, slow football isn’t going to cut it. His style of play is a problem for United and they won’t win anything major whilst he remains.

The Champions League is a cup. It's why the RS got to a final but were closer to Burnley than the champions in the league. Yet Klopp is lauded as some sort of revolutionary genius.

 

[efcjames]

Mourinho wouldn't come here. I get the impression he thinks we're beneath him.

We attracted Sam Allardyce mate. No one is above us.

 

[Minimeister]

He is an absolute bell and tiresome to boot now. As one poster as said he doesn't improve players at all anymore.

Apart from his Porto CL (which was a freak year) he has needed the biggest cheque book available to win anything. I'm also sick of hearing about his amazing CL win with Inter.. that Inter squad was incredible. One of the best squads in the world.

Hmmm. I don't claim to know much about Italian football but didn't that very same squad bomb the next year under Benitez?

 

[arminisgod]

Hmmm. I don't claim to know much about Italian football but didn't that very same squad bomb the next year under Benitez?

yes. But benitez is currently losing to Notts forest. Tells you what you need to know about him.

that team was nearly perfect. Pace, power, abide. Great team

 

[KaiserEFC]

His team cut apart by Mark Noble yesterday lol

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Boss at being a pillock

Not so much at football management currently though

 

[Del-boy]

Lost the players hasn’t he. You would think he’s on borrowed time now. Same at every club he manages. After three seasons it all starts going down hill. Think his ego gets the better of him and he believes he’s the main man over the players. Which is in this day an age only leads one way.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I don't think he's done enough to adapt to how football has changed over the last decade

 

[YoboCopter]

I don't think he's done enough to adapt to how football has changed over the last decade

This
You have to put your arm around these modern players more than shout at them

Like it or not its the way it is...

 

[TheBigIguana]

This
You have to put your arm around these modern players more than shout at them

Like it or not its the way it is...

I didn't even mean from a man management stand point. I was talking more about tactics. His teams have always sat deeper and that just isn't how teams play anymore.

 

[YoboCopter]

I didn't even mean from a man management stand point. I was talking more about tactics. His teams have always sat deeper and that just isn't how teams play anymore.

Simeone does ok?

 

[KaiserEFC]

I think the stature of his next club will be drastically lower than his previous ones

 

[TheBigIguana]

Simeone does ok?

Simeone is more the exception than the rule but the way they play is different from Mourinho. They force the ball down the sides and then pressure it and force it back. United more often than not are just letting teams play the ball around. Also the attacking system at United is broken. Atletico have more of a plan in that regard.

 

[YoboCopter]

Simeone is more the exception than the rule but the way they play is different from Mourinho. They force the ball down the sides and then pressure it and force it back. United more often than not are just letting teams play the ball around. Also the attacking system at United is broken. Atletico have more of a plan in that regard.

Yer they deffo sit deep though thats what i was getting at

 

[TheBigIguana]

Yer they deffo sit deep though thats what i was getting at

Atletico also step up a bit against lesser teams. They would have come out firing against a team like West Ham.

But sitting back is not totally dead. Conte does it too and I'd still take him as manager tomorrow.