John Stones

[Papa Shango]

Will be class. He was a great prospect before Martinez ruined him. If he played for Mourinho or Conte he'd look unbelievable. He's had 2 managers who can't organise a defence though.

Martinez ruined him?

You mean by playing him at a young age, allowing him to learn on the job before getting into the England team and a massive money move to Manchester City and all that comes with that?

The swine!

 

[Billy Dean]

There's a stunning correlation between John Stones being our first choice and our worst defensive performances in a long time.

Show us the proof mate.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Martinez ruined him?

You mean by playing him at a young age, allowing him to learn on the job before getting into the England team and a massive money move to Manchester City and all that comes with that?

The swine!

He got progressively worse under Martinez. His natural talent was so good though that it was inevitable he'd always be on top clubs radars. When he first came into the team he was beating Peter Crouch in the air, he was positionslly brilliant. By the end he was absolutely all over the shop.

 

[Papa Shango]

He got progressively worse under Martinez. His natural talent was so good though that it was inevitable he'd always be on top clubs radars. When he first came into the team he was beating Peter Crouch in the air, he was positionslly brilliant. By the end he was absolutely all over the shop.

Opinions I suppose. Martinez can be slated for many things but Stones owes him a lot.

Personally I don't think he is that good. His ability on the ball is not good enough to mask his defensive flaws. Comfortable on the ball for a defender but he is hardly Beckenbaur/Sammer/Baresi etc.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

As @chicoazul was telling me last night, Stones is only a 79 on FIFA

By comparison, Funes Mori is a 77

 

[McBain]

Show us the proof mate.

Year before Stones = 5th
2 years with Stones = 11th

 

[Billy Dean]

Year before Stones = 5th
2 years with Stones = 11th

LOL

 

[toffeejack]

Year before Stones = 5th
2 years with Stones = 11th

year after stones ....?

 

[McBain]

LOL

year after stones ....?

Case closed.

 

[Chunky Frankfurter]

I think the best sell in Premier League history. He does not have the real basics to be a great defender.

 

[Minimeister]

He'll be a great player when he learns how to defend, has someone who can cover alongside him and stops making basic errors.

 

[Paul w]

He'll be a great player when he learns how to defend, has someone who can cover alongside him and stops making basic errors.

You could basically say that about every player.

 

[Paul w]

You could basically say that about every player.

Oh I see.

 

[The Cowboy]

He'll be a great player when he learns how to defend, has someone who can cover alongside him and stops making basic errors.

Easy peasy.

 

[Khalekan]

He wasn't to bad yesterday but made a stones typical error with a backpass that mane nearly scored from.

Boy, he got out of jail with that one all right lol