Current Affairs Joe Biden POTUS #46

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All he has to do is be quiet and not be cool and he has a decent shot. Not going to make the black community happy as the looks of Twitter
People on Twitter are a minority no matter their race, and if you're taking your cues about the election from social media venues of Twitter's ilk I think you're getting a not-particularly-representative view of things.
It was a dumb thing to say imo. Imagine Trump had said it
It was a stupid thing to say, sure. Biden, as ever, is a gaffe machine.
Why has he specifically chosen blacks? Why not other minorities? Can they not make their own decision? In reality, it's crass and naive how he has said it.
I assume he was referencing African Americans specifically because he was conversing with a black guy who often hosts discussions re: black life in America.
 
Bidens latest gaffe I think is almost the nail in the coffin.

All he needs to do is keep it simple.

He's out there trying to outplay Trump at his own game. That won't work.

It just feeds again into the narrative of democrats being about identity politics. Biden had a whole dictionary of words to choose from other than 'black', and he still messed it up.
 
I get the message he was...I don't even know if this is the right phrase..."trying" to get across. As in, "if you vote for Donald Trump who as defended white nationalism and downplayed racism from his supporters on a constant basis, you are voting against your own best interests". Hell, that took me like 30 seconds of how best to phrase it. How hard could it really be!
 
Bidens latest gaffe I think is almost the nail in the coffin.

All he needs to do is keep it simple.

He's out there trying to outplay Trump at his own game. That won't work.

It just feeds again into the narrative of democrats being about identity politics. Biden had a whole dictionary of words to choose from other than 'black', and he still messed it up.



 
Look at any Republican National Convention and it's pretty clear that the GOP is the party of identity politics, and that identity is white.
It is, but I don't think it detracts from Biden's gaff.

Perhaps I'm simplifying or stereotyping here, but I would expect many Republican will follow Trump regardless of what horrendous stuff he spouts and his mantra.

On the other hand, I would suspect that more democrats will be more morally conscious and Biden's gaffs and allegations will cause more division in his own party.

Basically, I think Biden has to be even more cautious because he stands for a wider spectrum of the population, and to alienate them will be detrimental.

I'm not American so it's only an outside perspective, but does Biden really stand for what the many of democrats desire and need? Does it match their own morals?
 
is he the new toffee9?


He's only posted twice, so it would be impossible to say who it is

But @haothien is previously banned poster @toffy/@phequa/many others too numerous to name. Any day now, we'll hear about Trump's 4 dimensional chess, how the Democrats are literally HANDING the election to Trump and how every black man who gets shot deserves it somehow
 
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It is, but I don't think it detracts from Biden's gaff.

Perhaps I'm simplifying or stereotyping here, but I would expect many Republican will follow Trump regardless of what horrendous stuff he spouts and his mantra.

On the other hand, I would suspect that more democrats will be more morally conscious and Biden's gaffs and allegations will cause more division in his own party.

Basically, I think Biden has to be even more cautious because he stands for a wider spectrum of the population, and to alienate them will be detrimental.

I'm not American so it's only an outside perspective, but does Biden really stand for what the many of democrats desire and need? Does it match their own morals?
Over recent generations the GOP has definitely had better party discipline than the Dems in terms of turning out voters, so the failure of Dem or Dem-leaning citizens to vote is always a concern, especially when the Dem candidate doesn't touch them in their tingly places (per the cliche of American politics that "Democrats fall in love and Republicans fall in line"). Biden, as you may have noticed, is rarely characterized as visionary or particularly charismatic, so that would appear to be a problem.

Countering this, however, is the fact that he was chosen and elected VP over both terms of the Obama administration and Obama remains hugely popular among Dems. Neither that administration generally nor his vice-presidency in particular was marred by scandal or failure, and if people are able to remember way back in 2016, Biden hadn't yet been deemed a Republican-lite, bloodsucking capitalist in steep cognitive decline, because these characterizations are all products of the present campaign season. Now loads of people on social media speak as if it's utterly outlandish that Biden is the prospective nominee, a view you wouldn't have heard from any but the barest minority just a few years ago.

I think there's a majority among Dems and Dem-sympathizers who think of Biden as a solid enough if rhetorically hapless public servant, and there's no big bloc of people who despise him the way people despise Hillary Clinton. On the other side, Trump is no longer an unknown quantity and I personally believe there are a lot of people who were so confident that Clinton would win last time that they didn't bother showing up to vote for her, and they won't be making that mistake again. The Democratic Party isn't nearly as ideological as Twitter progressives would have you believe (I say as a progressive who disdains Twitter); I think a Biden victory is entirely possible and not unlikely.

(But don't listen to me, I'm forever Warren 2020.)
 
Hahaha did Biden say if you didn’t vote for him that you’re not black???

Oh my dear god.
 
Bidens latest gaffe I think is almost the nail in the coffin.

All he needs to do is keep it simple.

He's out there trying to outplay Trump at his own game. That won't work.

It just feeds again into the narrative of democrats being about identity politics. Biden had a whole dictionary of words to choose from other than 'black', and he still messed it up.

Evening T....offee
 
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