bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Sky Bet still have Ev down as odds on favourite for Morgs.
Yet Sky run a story saying West Brom have bid
Yet they are the only news outlet doing so
Skybet way to milk a market 101
January Transfer Thread 2017
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Skybet way to milk a market 101
It is hard to know who you should get, as I don't know how much resources you have. Lots of rumours you could spend a fortune, but until that happens - that's all it is rumours. Not saying you won't, but who you should target should will changes depending on your budget.
However regardless of the budget, I feel a GK needs to arrive. Howard was letting you down last season and I don't think the two keepers you have now are good enough, despite the odd game where they do well. They don't look solid enough and make too many costly errors.
Your wide players all seem very disappointing to me. Lennon, Deulofeu, Mirallas - none of these look big goal threats or even suppliers to me. Bolasie is a big loss in that regard as although he was hit and miss - at least he had those hits and would supply Lukaku at times.
Lukaku is a striker that relies on service and to be fair to him when he gets that service he is one of the best finishers in the league. But he is feeding off scraps a lot of the time and you need to find some creativity and someone to feed him.
Lukaku really needs a strike partner alongside him. Or two inside forwards in a 4-3-3. You don't appear to have either. I also don't see how Barkley and Lukaku really work together. I think the club might be better off making a decision on these two and deciding which one you want to keep (if either of them) and build a team round that player. I feel it might be hard to build a team round both of them as they don't see to compliment each other from what I can see.
Koeman needs to decide on the formation he wants, the brand of football he wants and then he needs to be ruthless in getting rid of the players - even if they are stars like Lukaku. No point in keeping Lukaku if Koeman wants to play a high tempo, pressing game - as he's not that type of striker. Equally no point in keeping Barkley if the plan is to play 4-4-2, buying a partner to compliment Lukaku and then it is hard to see how Barkley fits in a 4-4-2.
Some of your best players don't compliment each other from what I can see. As a LFC fan we had that when Coutinho was meant to try and supply Lambert. Both wanted to play the game different ways. Lambert wanted crosses, Coutinho wanted movement so he could pass the ball to feet. It didn't work. I don't think your attack currently works. It looks best when Valencia is in the team as he gets closer to Lukaku, to give him support. He also does the pressing that Lukaku doesn't do, this creates space for Lukaku to exploit. No surprise to me you have scored you goals in recent weeks when Valencia is on the field. He's not the best players in the world, far from it. But he does help bring the best out of Lukaku - that is something I don't think Barkley does & vice versa, Lukaku doesn't do it for Barkley.
Sometimes teams can sell a star and be better off. Man Utd did it when they sold RVN, their top scorer the season before despite them not winning the league. They bought an uninspiring Carrick. They already had enough goals in the team with Rooney, Ronaldo etc. What they needed was control in midfield and Carrick did that. They then won the league and Champs League in the next two years.
Arsenal did it when they sold Henry to Barca. They lost their best player, but their whole attack was based around him, they were not really a team - he was their attack and they were coming 4th in the league. They sold him, bought Eduardo - others stepped up and they nearly won the league that season. I think they would have had Eduardo not have received that awful injury.
Koeman needs to be ruthless and make tough decisions so you are a better team overall. Personally I think you should cash in on Lukaku and buy the players to suit a more high, energy pressing game. I feel if you did that then Barkley might come alive again. Barkley's stock is currently low, but I think he has proven what a special player he can be in the right set up and when on form.
If he persists with Lukaku and Barkley, tries to shoe horn players in around them, like a Depay - then I fear that could be the worst thing he could be doing. As he is persisting with what doesn't work. Sometimes you have to break a few eggs, for that omelette.
However regardless of the budget, I feel a GK needs to arrive. Howard was letting you down last season and I don't think the two keepers you have now are good enough, despite the odd game where they do well. They don't look solid enough and make too many costly errors.
Your wide players all seem very disappointing to me. Lennon, Deulofeu, Mirallas - none of these look big goal threats or even suppliers to me. Bolasie is a big loss in that regard as although he was hit and miss - at least he had those hits and would supply Lukaku at times.
Lukaku is a striker that relies on service and to be fair to him when he gets that service he is one of the best finishers in the league. But he is feeding off scraps a lot of the time and you need to find some creativity and someone to feed him.
Lukaku really needs a strike partner alongside him. Or two inside forwards in a 4-3-3. You don't appear to have either. I also don't see how Barkley and Lukaku really work together. I think the club might be better off making a decision on these two and deciding which one you want to keep (if either of them) and build a team round that player. I feel it might be hard to build a team round both of them as they don't see to compliment each other from what I can see.
Koeman needs to decide on the formation he wants, the brand of football he wants and then he needs to be ruthless in getting rid of the players - even if they are stars like Lukaku. No point in keeping Lukaku if Koeman wants to play a high tempo, pressing game - as he's not that type of striker. Equally no point in keeping Barkley if the plan is to play 4-4-2, buying a partner to compliment Lukaku and then it is hard to see how Barkley fits in a 4-4-2.
Some of your best players don't compliment each other from what I can see. As a LFC fan we had that when Coutinho was meant to try and supply Lambert. Both wanted to play the game different ways. Lambert wanted crosses, Coutinho wanted movement so he could pass the ball to feet. It didn't work. I don't think your attack currently works. It looks best when Valencia is in the team as he gets closer to Lukaku, to give him support. He also does the pressing that Lukaku doesn't do, this creates space for Lukaku to exploit. No surprise to me you have scored you goals in recent weeks when Valencia is on the field. He's not the best players in the world, far from it. But he does help bring the best out of Lukaku - that is something I don't think Barkley does & vice versa, Lukaku doesn't do it for Barkley.
Sometimes teams can sell a star and be better off. Man Utd did it when they sold RVN, their top scorer the season before despite them not winning the league. They bought an uninspiring Carrick. They already had enough goals in the team with Rooney, Ronaldo etc. What they needed was control in midfield and Carrick did that. They then won the league and Champs League in the next two years.
Arsenal did it when they sold Henry to Barca. They lost their best player, but their whole attack was based around him, they were not really a team - he was their attack and they were coming 4th in the league. They sold him, bought Eduardo - others stepped up and they nearly won the league that season. I think they would have had Eduardo not have received that awful injury.
Koeman needs to be ruthless and make tough decisions so you are a better team overall. Personally I think you should cash in on Lukaku and buy the players to suit a more high, energy pressing game. I feel if you did that then Barkley might come alive again. Barkley's stock is currently low, but I think he has proven what a special player he can be in the right set up and when on form.
If he persists with Lukaku and Barkley, tries to shoe horn players in around them, like a Depay - then I fear that could be the worst thing he could be doing. As he is persisting with what doesn't work. Sometimes you have to break a few eggs, for that omelette.
You absolute melt...
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-798#post-4223942
Lukaku i think just needs some competition. Id be tempted to bring in Defoe, wouldnt have to play every game but his experience and goals could be ideal for us, like our Solskjaer.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-798#post-4224276
If sunderland went down we could do worse than pick up defoe,pickford and watmore.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-872#post-4297220
Seriously in terms of English players...
Lewis Cook ( @BlueToff )
Jordan Pickford
Duncan Watmore
id also like to see kone out for defoe
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-873#post-4297566
Heres my list for March
Leno / Rico or Pickford/Butland if we go English
Dominic Iorfa
Jonathan Tah
Bernardo Silva /Yarmolenko
Youri Tielemans
Jermaine Defoe
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-873#post-4297572
I have probably watched the foreign players more than the english ones tbh.
Defoe would be ideal off the bench if we needed a goal...he also is old enough to teach rom a few tricks i reckon...
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-874#post-4297586
Just think defoe is a proven scorer and even knocking them in for sunderland. Would be an option off the bench if we needed a goal...good for a season.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...oll-reset-1st-may.83793/page-539#post-4315767
Youre writing that i only want to sign u21 players yet i suggested Jermaine Defoe to be signed in the transfer thread + the first choice goalkeepers id like are all 23+
Think you need to give your head a wobble.....
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...-reset-21-05-2016.83876/page-349#post-4393042
The most interesting thing on that link is a couple of posts down referencing Defoe. From all the stick i get about playing u21s, ive been saying we should sign Defoe as a bench option. Far better than anyone ee have bar Lukaku.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/...-reset-21-05-2016.83876/page-350#post-4393064
Very good player and we should have signed him a few years ago before going for Kone. Its been a weakspot for martinez going for players he has known or tracked before.
On the flipside i wonder about these young players coming through. Mourinho has said that he would play one in at LB and thsts enough for the defence aa he needs to ensure its solid also perhaps one at RW far away from the other player.
Makes alot of sense but wouldnt help to develop players who are good enough now for a few games or minutes.
Ajax and PSV need to play kids out of necessity and do it well so perhaps thats the better approach for us to create something long lasting.
Then add a few sprinkles of new signings or short term atop gaps like Defoe.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-1078#post-4534471
Ive already named players like defoe / manolas etc who arent in the age range you mention.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-1159#post-4569753
Lukaku/niasse/kone to be replaced by Janssen/Milik and id try for Defoe.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-1439#post-4611429
Ive been on about defoe for ages as well. Off the bench for a goal....
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/maarten-stekelenburg.89526/page-20#post-4779234
This summer i have stated that Defoe, witsel, koulibaly and also some over 30's players (who i cant remember and its 3am here) would be good additions.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-4239#post-4829928
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/everton-transfer-thread-2016.81190/page-4239#post-4829928
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/page-373#post-4931499
Hes actually one of the main players ive wanted us to sign for about 10 years.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ronald-koeman-discussion.89131/page-485#post-4985123
Personally i agree about the experienced forward, ive said on here that we should sign / have signed Defoe...but bar him i cant think of any experienced players who we should bring in / have brought in...
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/idrissa-gueye.90148/page-202#post-4985499
Why dont people recognise that i wanted us to sign Defoe for the past 3 seasons ffs
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/january-transfer-thread-2017.92578/page-18#post-5002978
Jordan Pickford
Timothy Fosu-Mensah
Memohis Depay (loan to buy)
Hakan Calhanoglu
Jermaine Defoe
Thats who we should be in for in Jan.
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/january-transfer-thread-2017.92578/page-18#post-5003036
We have 2 hopes....
Sunderland are so far gone by Jan we can sign them.
Sunderland are doing ok and take jags and others off us
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https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/january-transfer-thread-2017.92578/page-270#post-5075481
Ask the sunderland fans and i guess they would say that last season he was one of their top 3 or 4 players...kone and that DM in Jan as well as Defoe.
He played a big part in them staying up.
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You lot should be ashamed of yourselves.
thats a new level of forum tantrum, tagging in people who just liked the posts which annoyed you
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thats a new level of forum tantrum, tagging in people who just liked the posts which annoyed you
It was eye-aids, honestly couldn't read or even begin to comprehend what it was about
the internet eh? giving a voice to wonderful imaginary characters for decades
John Osters Love Child
Player Valuation: £6m
West Ham apparently willing to listen to offers for Adrian.
John Osters Love Child
Player Valuation: £6m
he knows how to take a good penalty
Always looks a bit Rocky to me.
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
I'm not surprised, as he's absolute mince
i said wonderful!
...another link suggesting Witsel has snubbed us again. Perhaps we can't take no for an answer.
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