James McCarthy

Shipped · July 20, 2019

davek said:
You could say that for Moyes: no fee, small fee, money barely back on all but a few of his purchases. Fellaini and Stones were probably the best profits we got on Moyes' signings. Arteta a good profit.

Lukaku was quite simply the signing of the 21st Century. Value on the pitch + profit. Cleverley and Deulofeu fees were profitable too.

brettangellnightporter · July 20, 2019

toffeejack said:
Don't understand people saying accept it immediately. If we can get more money from it, brands will. Our valuation is supposedly £10m, best practice is to not accept the first bid.

We value this pencil at 10m.
- we will have it for 8m.
"Hmmm best practice....thanks we accept take it now"

LocalNative · July 20, 2019

Essentially traded him in for Delph. Fantastic business.

Paul Rideout · July 20, 2019

davek said:
You could say that for Moyes: no fee, small fee, money barely back on all but a few of his purchases. Fellaini and Stones were probably the best profits we got on Moyes' signings. Arteta a good profit.

Lukaku was quite simply the signing of the 21st Century. Value on the pitch + profit. Cleverley and Deulofeu fees were profitable too.

You know what Dave, many times I disagree with your statements... and I can see the angle from your perspective even if I disagree (Hope you find my questions insightful rather than annoying).

But this one is baffling. Coleman & signing Rooney as a kid are stratosphere’s above Lukaku. And they are not even considering Cahill, Arteta et al.

Thomasc · July 20, 2019

Paul Rideout said:
You know what Dave, many times I disagree with your statements... and I can see the angle from your perspective even if I disagree (Hope you find my questions insightful rather than annoying).

But this one is baffling. Coleman & signing Rooney as a kid are stratosphere’s above Lukaku. And they are not even considering Cahill, Arteta et al.

Let’s not forget Stones, bought for 3m sold for 47.5.

He’s fishing again with his pathetically weird Martinez rod.

Coggy · July 20, 2019

davek said:
It wont come to that. Not if Jug head is a proper DoF.

Sorry mate but you are bang out of order here.
You generally amuse me with your going against the flow / WUM postings.
However , recently (and admittedly begrudgingly) you have been admitting that Brands has been doing a reasonable job , in your eyes !.
Why now resort to "jug head" comments.
Childish and puerile , in my view. How does this advance the debate , and us as a club ?.

MikeH72 · July 20, 2019

dublinbluenose said:
Will be a really good signing for Palace. Hopefully they don't have as many bedwetters at their club.

???

Doesn’t make any sense.

dublinbluenose · July 20, 2019

mikeh72 said:
???

Doesn’t make any sense.

We have many bedwetters as fans

MikeH72 · July 20, 2019

dublinbluenose said:
We have many bedwetters as fans

I know, but what does that have to do with McCarthy at all?

ProZ · July 20, 2019

If they have offered 8 then id accept 6.

Get cornflake out the bad crock

PhilRegan · July 20, 2019

Saint Domingo said:
He did, 07-10 multiple European qualifications, a cup final, derby wins, sadly ruined by three ACL injuries to the spine of his team in one season.

Lukaku aside we’ve not recruited well since Moyes left. Finally it looks like we could be.

You could argue a lot of what Moyes bought were duds mate. He also only sold his best at their peak for good money, he sold himself too to United while he was still contracted to Everton.

Saint Domingo · July 20, 2019

PhilRegan said:
You could argue a lot of what Moyes bought were duds mate. He also only sold his best at their peak for good money, he sold himself too to United while he was still contracted to Everton.

The difference is that Moyes had some duds whereas Martinez bought nearly all duds Lukaku aside.

I’ve no problem if people don’t like him because of the United business but the man was a genius at recruitment. Took us from perennial relegation candidates to multiple European qualifications breaking the top 6 numerous times and even the top 4 once all achieved on a budget that was minimal in comparison to most of the top half of the prem. After the debacles of Martinez, Koeman and Allardyce I would have thought Moyes’ talents in player trading would be more appreciated but it seems that some people just hate Moyes and won’t give him anything. A sad way to treat the man who singlehandedly saved this club.

CRIMHEAD · July 20, 2019

Love how when McCarthy got into the game he flattened two players almost immediately. No way he can stay healthy.

PhilRegan · July 20, 2019

Saint Domingo said:
The difference is that Moyes had some duds whereas Martinez bought nearly all duds Lukaku aside.

I’ve no problem if people don’t like him because of the United business but the man was a genius at recruitment. Took us from perennial relegation candidates to multiple European qualifications breaking the top 6 numerous times and even the top 4 once all achieved on a budget that was minimal in comparison to most of the top half of the prem. After the debacles of Martinez, Koeman and Allardyce I would have thought Moyes’ talents in player trading would be more appreciated but it seems that some people just hate Moyes and won’t give him anything. A sad way to treat the man who singlehandedly saved this club.

I think Barry, Delboy , McCarthy and Lukaku were decent. He didn't sign too many because he wasn't here too long. Moyes was here 11 YEARS.

His recruitment was average to good
( have a closer less biased look). What he achieved though which was not the topic of discussion was good but not at all great.