Is Premier League Boring?

[JelavicBrate2]

Offsides have taken too long since the Spurs incident you mentioned (obviously VAR's worst mistake), hopefully the semi-automated will put a stop to that, but I'm not too convinced. Apart from that, that Tarkowski goal was just VAR doing its job - if they wanted to disallow it they would've done. Palace's goal against us took ages, were they desperately trying to rule that out?

It's like you take every single niche of what referees do and twist it to make it look like there's an agenda against Everton, no matter what the context. VAR is bad for the game, and there is an inherent bias involved in 'big' decisions. That's bad enough, it doesn't need to be conspiracied up to the maximum.

I don't think there is an agenda against Everton, I agree looking at Palace goal for ages was ridiculous. I don't believe there's a grand conspiracy amongst refs and VAR to give certain decisions. I simply think favourable decisions are given to certain clubs. Haaland running full speed and snapping Mykolenko from behind, was far more dangerous than Allans challenge against Newcastle, yet Allan got sent off, Haaland didn't. Yes we have got decisions against RS over years Barkley and Mirallas not getting sent off. But in general they've got far more decisions over the years in derby games.

 

[RD2910]

I don't think there is an agenda against Everton, I agree looking at Palace goal for ages was ridiculous. I don't believe there's a grand conspiracy amongst refs and VAR to give certain decisions. I simply think favourable decisions are given to certain clubs. Haaland running full speed and snapping Mykolenko from behind, was far more dangerous than Allans challenge against Newcastle, yet Allan got sent off, Haaland didn't. Yes we have got decisions against RS over years Barkley and Mirallas not getting sent off. But in general they've got far more decisions over the years in derby games.

That's fair enough, but that's the kind of comparison I can't bear. Do you think the VAR in the City game should have an encyclopaedic view of every single challenge which could be compared to Haaland's, or do you think they should start watching Allan's challenge (from two years before?) again to make sure? The 'consistency' people in the media talk about is a pipe dream, it's virtually impossible. All they can do is view the challenge they're looking at in accordance with the rules. That was the case before VAR and after.

I think Allan's challenge was one that they saw as a 'big' decision in the relegation situation and decided to stick rigidly to all their little precedents, and it ended up as a massive overstep. That's the point where I reckon unconscious bias kicks in and the 'big' clubs benefit. Luckily for us it didn't effect us too badly on that occasion.

 

[LEONARD]

I think it has peaked.

Bent hierarchy, biased media , VAR, and overpaid prima donnas who roll around dead at the slightest touch.

Aside from what we do, I can't be bothered to engage.

 

[Moomin]

They won league this season, because they've had no proper competition, as Richard Keys was talking about on bein sports. We managed to comfortably draw against Arsenal and Chelsea under Dyche. Arsenal have had countless injuries to vital attacking players, Liverpool haven't. They have got very lucky that Salah hasn't got injured, with him they'd be screwed.

They have won the league as they have been the best team over the course of the season and secured more points than everyone else.

 

[JelavicBrate2]

They have won the league as they have been the best team over the course of the season and secured more points than everyone else.

Agree they have been best team in league, plus they have best player arguably in league in Salah. League table doesn't lie, my point is that Premier League was more competitive in the past. Look at Chelsea side we lost to in FA cup final for example, who weren't in title race. In the past players earned more than average Joe, but they had an incentive to try hard. We were better undrr Moyes, when we didn't have money, than when we spent huge amounts under Moshiri. Mina was quite happy to accept huge wages, then miss games because he'd broken a fingernail. Then you have players like Maupay and the Snide who had appalling attitudes.

 

[Voodoo Billy]

Spot on.

This is a big part of the reason why I've waxed lyrical about PSG this season - a team made up of quality, young players who play with freedom and confidence in their abilities and - most importantly - aren't 'engineered' to strictly play a certain way. A genuine joy to watch.

The Premier League could do with a few teams like them... and no - your Forests, Bournemouth's, Brighton's et al just simply do not count.

They've been a breath of fresh air PSG haven't they. Watching a team playing with joy is what the game should be.

 

[everton1953]

Very boring watching crap teams like Southampton, Ipswich and Leicester. Results usually guaranteed.

 

[Bluebonic]

Every football fan, including Citeh, ManU, and the mutants think that all the refs and VAR have it in for them. Prior to VAR poor decisions tended to (more or less) balance out over the course of a season. Football was always a sport that allowed the average bloke to express passion and emotion, whether happy or sad. VAR has killed that for me, you can no longer celebrate a goal or if you do, you stop yourself to make sure VAR doesn't get involved. This has killed the spontaneity and if it were up to me I would bin it tomorrow. Same with stats, a modern player can pass the ball sideways and backwards all day long, and provided he gets it to a team mate, it is shown in the stats as a positive contribution.

 

[Jacko93]

That's fair enough, but that's the kind of comparison I can't bear. Do you think the VAR in the City game should have an encyclopaedic view of every single challenge which could be compared to Haaland's, or do you think they should start watching Allan's challenge (from two years before?) again to make sure? The 'consistency' people in the media talk about is a pipe dream, it's virtually impossible. All they can do is view the challenge they're looking at in accordance with the rules. That was the case before VAR and after.

I think Allan's challenge was one that they saw as a 'big' decision in the relegation situation and decided to stick rigidly to all their little precedents, and it ended up as a massive overstep. That's the point where I reckon unconscious bias kicks in and the 'big' clubs benefit. Luckily for us it didn't effect us too badly on that occasion.

I think that in some cases, referees view the threshold for certain decisions differently with different clubs.

Thats been patently obvious even during just this season, never mind over past seasons. It may even be player based, not club based, but they do, invariably, tend to play for a small group of clubs. There is no way that this does not pass over into VAR as well.

The media though, they go on and on about consistency, yet show none of themselves. They could report consistently and review consistently, but they're paid by the sport and won't be rocking the boat.

 

[andy4efc]

Yes.

Never been more bored watching a game of football on Saturday. Everyone tries just to play the same, pass pass pass pass to nothing. Pep has been a cancer to English football, now everyone wants to play that way and it makes the league extremely, extremely boring.

 

[Andy McGurk]

I reckon football got boring the moment Brazil looked like a generic European football team and not the skillfull and full of flair they were 15 years ago

 

[MACCA75]

I reckon football got boring the moment Brazil looked like a generic European football team and not the skillfull and full of flair they were 15 years ago

I remember being a kid and it was wildly exciting to see Zico, Socrates, Falcao etc appear at the World Cup every 4 years.

It’s not quite the same now when half the Brazil side are trotting out when Wolves play Bournemouth.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

I reckon football got boring the moment Brazil looked like a generic European football team and not the skillfull and full of flair they were 15 years ago

100%. The Brazil teams of the 80s were a joy to watch despite never winning the World Cup. Unfortunately now that there's no foreign limits on players the best young Brazilians are poached by European teams at a young age and moulded into the modern version of been overly coached and to fit in to the team pattern. Football needs a maverick like Ronaldinho again

 

[chippy1722]

The most boring team for me are City, can’t watch them. It’s just crab football, I remember Jamie Redknapp getting slated for doing exactly what 9 of the city players do.

 

[T LEAFE]

I really enjoyed the Villa Newcastle game particularly the performance of Villa but games like that are seldom and most are mundanely tedious
Non league football is much more exciting and cheaper