lancs blue
Player Valuation: £35m
For a club labelled the people's club we are one of the least transparent in the league. I'm still confused as to where we are going and I think that might be to do with kenwright still pulling the strings
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The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Not saying you don't have a point, hell we could all see we needed a big number 9 to be able to change the way we play. Transfer by committee may stop us getting half decent players from time to time, but there is a third option there also, we tried but we weren't successful in getting what we wanted. Sometimes we will come up short, Barca even came up short in this window. Wasn't due to the fact they didn't have the money, or were incompetent, the RS wouldn't sell. But maybe the agent and player were giving them all the signals it would go through? That prevented them switching to other targets in time.
The difference is you heard about bids for Coutinho, Sanchez et al didn't you? You didn't hear of a single offer for anyone from Everton - not even Giroud, no bid went in. And it's not Everton being "quiet" about it - you heard about bids for Sigurdsson etc.
You have to bid in the first place to miss out on a player. We didn't - because it's quite clear we had no interest in signing a player beyond scrambling around for a loan if something came up.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Who mislead us in to that? If you believed a man worth less than £2bn could bankroll us to the extent of a Roman Abramovic or Sheikh Mansour then that's your own fault for being delusional. Just because the media write sensational headlines about a £100m Warchest doesn't mean it's the reality either.
The Stadium financing seems like an astute move which fits all parties and why should he be expected to pay for the Stadium out of his own money?
As for the spending, I too am disappointed we haven't got a striker in, and although it's better than nothing to have Jim White giving us bits of information, it doesn't seem very professional to me and Moshiri's interview the other day was frustrating. I think we've messed up by not finding any sort of reasonable replacement for Lukaku but I place as much blame, if not more, on Koeman and Walsh who have been given funds to buy players by Moshiri. They chose to spend it in other positions rather than on a replacement and I think that will hold us back at least until January, if not for the whole season.
We still haven't spent the arteta money ffs!
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
I read about a few bids, but what's actual bids and not paper talk/rumour mill is anyones guess... (well more likely to be click bait tbf)
We just have to see what happens in Jan, seeing our last major saleable asset has just had 50% knocked off his value if we go out and buy a defender and a forward then we had the money we just couldn't get what we wanted.
The answer to your question is a resounding NO.
Noel Gallagher said the same thing twenty years ago when asked would he consider investing in Citeh.
What I want to ask you is this.
From what I can gather, most of Moshiri's wealth stems from share options given to him by Usmanov for services rendered during the great pillage of Russian assets by Usmanov, Abramovitch and their ilk when the Soviet Union collapsed.
I am sure it was all above board.
And whilst he might have invested that largesse wisely, nothing I have heard about him points to him being some kind of great industrialist or entrepreneur or wealth creating businessman.
From what I can gather Moshiri is basically an accountant whom lucked out when he met Usmanov during the great Klondyke that was late 20th century Siberia.
I might be well off the mark there, but that is what I think.
So I am wondering what are his credentials for running a major football club.
Because he sure seems hands on.....calling into TV programmes and all
TV money more or less pays for everything.
He's an Accountant - Accountancy is 'legally' robbing Peter to pay Paul.
In business were there are buyers and sellers, there are only 3 business models.
1) You pay
2) I pay
3) Somebody else pays...usually the preferred option
You don't get to be a billionaire via option 2
harris78
Phil Nevs Pointy Finger
I don't think that ha anything to do with Kenwright to be fair. Moshiri is the majority shareholder, at any point he can come out and state exactly what his intentions are for the club but for one reason or another he has decided not to, that is not Kenwrights fault.
I can recall the first window Moshiri coming in, previous posters on this website stating that money was no object if the manager wanted players. When Moshiri called Jim White on deadline day (if it was him) the one thing i found interesting was how Moshiri mentioned how much the top 5 had spent...
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
The club lead the hype train, mate.
The club itself coined the slogan 'Nothing will be the same'.
Selling our best players to finance deals feels much the same.
So then the argument would be 45 net spend and couldn't even meet demands of the manager for position demands
bring the ghost on
Player Valuation: £35m
I think you probably are well off the mark. You don't "luck out" and become worth £2bn. Yes, he's benefited massively from a partnership with Usmanov, but why has Usmanov chosen Moshiri to work so closely with? Because he's a very, very shrewd businessman in his own right, of course.
Moshiri doesn't "run" the club, he owns a large stake in it. He will take responsibility for certain high level strategic decisions, but he isn't on the board of directors, he leaves the management of the club to people with the expertise in the relevant positions. He is a multi-billionaire businessman, which is basically the only necessary credential to be the majority owner of a football club these days.
So....he is a "very good" accountant whom "lucked out" then.
The point is he landed on his feet with Usmanov at a time when Russian assets were being handed out for a rouble to friends of t he noveau regime.
That is from where his wealth emanates....and good luck to him.
He is not, from what I can gather and from which your post seems to confirm, a captain of industry or a wealth creator.
I mean, I am open to correction here.
Apart from an accountancy business, what has he actually created in the way of an honest to goodness, tangible industry?
And indeed you are half right in almost saying being a "billionaire businessman" is the only "credential" required to buy a football club.
But buying one and running it are two different things.
Lerner, Ashley, Venty, Hicks and Gillett among others say hello
Look, I am not wanting to pick holes in Moshiri for the sake of it.
I hope he lives up to the hopes we had for him.
But the events of this transfer window are so redolent of what we had before he came that I am starting to worry that EFC is merely a profitable exercise in accountancy for him....that happen he is interested only in making a profit off the field when you and I are desperate to see us profiting on it
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