Is Moshiri investing in the team?

Is Moshiri investing in the team

  • yes

    Votes: 418 73.1%
  • No

    Votes: 107 18.7%
  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 47 8.2%

  • Total voters
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The true test is now, we had three bankable assets. Its arguable whether Pickford, Keane and Idressa (possibly Lookman and Davies) might be now but the money does not come from sales from here on in
 

It isn't his money - it's an overdraft.

All it means is that we have to sell to repay in January or the summer.
Which is the opposite of selling, missing out and going with what we have until the January where we can get in a couple of loans etc to cover.
TV money means we could of done this regardless of course, however his personal financial level is a safety net which means we now do, do this. So we don't miss out on players, even if we havn't sold what we need to yet. This is positive.
He's not the messiah as some see him, but he has given us a new dimension to our spend... i.e the ability to spend what we have not recouped yet. Like you say we still need to sell within the same... or the next couple of... windows, because with all businesses the money needs to come from somewhere, but as long as the TV money and the incoming transfer money gets re-invested we should all be happy.

Alot of clubs get taken to the cleaners for their profits, at least it looks like we are re-investing what's coming in and a little more.
 
I'm not even entirely sure Farhad Moshiri actually exists.
I wouldn't be completely shocked if you told me Kenwright had hired Sacha Baron Cohen to create a caricature of a billionaire businessman.
 

Which is the opposite of selling, missing out and going with what we have until the January where we can get in a couple of loans etc to cover.
TV money means we could of done this regardless of course, however his personal financial level is a safety net which means we now do, do this. So we don't miss out on players, even if we havn't sold what we need to yet. This is positive.
He's not the messiah as some see him, but he has given us a new dimension to our spend... i.e the ability to spend what we have not recouped yet. Like you say we still need to sell within the same... or the next couple of... windows, because with all businesses the money needs to come from somewhere, but as long as the TV money and the incoming transfer money gets re-invested we should all be happy.

Alot of clubs get taken to the cleaners for their profits, at least it looks like we are re-investing what's coming in and a little more.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make... the overdraft was already eaten up, that's why we couldn't buy. Which means Moshiri isn't investing - he's using an overdraft that needs settling; once that was gone, that was it, and now we have to sell assets before we buy again.

So it's Bill Kenwright with an overdraft. But arguably worse, because arguably even the TV money isn't being fully re-invested, but that'll be seen a few windows down the line if true or not. Kenwright actually spent net roughly the same amount in the two seasons prior to Moshiri - no difference.

And with Moshiri's "ambition", that's not good enough. Nowhere near good enough.
 
Maybe , just maybe , any strikers we went for didn't want to come . Can't bloody well kidnap one ,like
This will be exactly what it is.

What I do know for sure is that, all ends up, we put our stock into Giroud joining and it never transpired. Chances are we also had a Plan B (it would be incredibly short-sighted if not) and, whoever it was and whatever the reason, that didn't transpire either.

'Plan C' and you're entering the realms of panic buying, which the board have ultimately opted against (the Perez loan approach made it clear to me that they never considered him a long term option in the first place). The striker issue will definitely be revisited in January when circumstances may have changed, but for now I'm not really super upset with the club over this.
 
The Stones sale was needed cos of FFP or SSTC or something; we needed the profit to allow the wage inflation or something.
Remember who it was who presented that theory. The same man who has been wrong on almost every other aspect of how this club has been run over the past 18 months (I include the financial aspects here as well as his transfer nonsense, the man is a Walter Mitty) There is no more evidence to support his theory on Stones than has been presented on the "sell to buy" theory.
 

This will be exactly what it is.

What I do know for sure is that, all ends up, we put our stock into Giroud joining and it never transpired. Chances are we also had a Plan B (it would be incredibly short-sighted if not) and, whoever it was and whatever the reason, that didn't transpire either.

'Plan C' and you're entering the realms of panic buying, which the board have ultimately opted against (the Perez loan approach made it clear to me that they never considered him a long term option in the first place). The striker issue will definitely be revisited in January when circumstances may have changed, but for now I'm not really super upset with the club over this.


IMO Plan A should have been buy Giroud or some other striker of repute, ability and experience.

On completion of that, Plan B should then have been to sell Lukaku.

Plan C should have been to scrap Plan B if Plan A didn't materialise.

That was the only sensible way to approach this situation.

The very thought that we sold our leading goalscorer on the notion, vague or otherwise, that Giroud would sign smacks of delusional amateurism at best, us needing the dough to stockpile midfield players at worst.
 
Remember who it was who presented that theory. The same man who has been wrong on almost every other aspect of how this club has been run over the past 18 months (I include the financial aspects here as well as his transfer nonsense, the man is a Walter Mitty) There is no more evidence to support his theory on Stones than has been presented on the "sell to buy" theory.
That... orrr the fact that he didn't want to be at Everton Football Club for much longer, so naturally we cashed in for a more-than-generous £50m.
 
Indeed.

In that case the very good one we had and whom was still under contract for another two years should not have been allowed to leave.
Absolutely this. Too many on here want to have their cake and eat it too. They say we had to let Lukaku leave because an unhappy player would be some sort of millstone. Lukaku has been agitating for a move the whole time he has been here, what would have been the difference this season. No other clubs force unhappy players to stay they said, well VVD, Costa and Coutinho might disagree. If we were to behave in a responsible fashion on this issue we should have come to an agreement with Lukaku's replacement and his club and only when that was agreed in principle would we agree a deal to sell Lukaku. The whole thing was a fiasco.
 

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