Is it time for Technology?

[Columbia6]

Yes, it's time for video evidence. The arguments against it are very amusing.

Traditionalism? In today's game with clubs flittering into and out of existence faster than sub-atomic particles?

Equality? Do people genuinely think that their Sunday League games are so closely related to Brazil vs Chile tonight that the world is going to stop spinning if they stick a microchip in the ball? Highly over-romanticised view of the whole thing.

By the by, being Irish I found the whole thing yesterday absolutely hilarious, so this is not a reaction to that.

 

[Desaparecido]

If you resort to replays where do you stop, disputed corners, throw ins, fouls-- could be a big can of worms. Look at Argie and Mexico damned near had a riot.

Well, you could stop with questioning if a ball had crossed the line and offside decisions. OR you could give each team one appeal to use how the saw fit, and if they want to question a throw in then that's their call.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

We bitched about Refs before sky to be fair. Hell, you go and watch non league football, the refs there get a bollocking and theres not even a newspaper reporter at those games

This is true, it does seem worse to me since Sky and their numerous replays gave people proof to back up their claims of refs being wrong.

Sure people always moaned about refs, Even now at Goodison every call that goes against us whenever i've been someone shouts abuse at the ref cause they saw it different but it should be forgotten about unless its a horrendously bad call.

Now people whinge like **** if a linesman gets a throw in wrong.

And this over analyisation and criticism of refs for every mistake comes from intensefied coverage of the games.

As for managers getting 3 appeals or whatever, i bet anything they wont be so keen to criticise the ref and call him [Poor language removed] if for every appeal the manager gets wrong he has to concede 2 goals and lose 3 players for 15 mins. Lets see how sure they are of making the correct call every time if theyre so good at it and the refs bad.

 

[MapleLeafEvertonian]

It is a must, the game has been crying out for this for quite a while now.

The arguement against it is quite weak.

1. "It would be boring if placed in and a waste of time"- Simply wrong, you look at rugby it as a tense moment to see if it was a try or not and quite an important part of the game, also I would bet that it would take just as long as a sub or a free kick to check the video.

2. "It can't be implimented to all level of football, finances"- Doesn't have to be, take the English football system, you could have the video technology implimented at Leauge level. So the Prem, Championship, Leauge 1 and 2 would be required to have it. The money to pay for it could come from the F.A ( They canpay Don Fabio 6 million a year they can do that easily)

3. "It would make the game less interesting, the fans and media love debating refs calls!" - Well, there is no debate with Lampard's effort, it was in, no debate about it. Likewise with Tevez's first goal, he was offside by a mile. As for it being less interesting, just once again wrong, Ice Hockey certainly isn't less interesting, likewise with Rugby, NFL etc etc.


4. "How far would this technology go, would even throw ins be looked at!!!" Simple, you could have anything that happens in the box can be put video review if the ref chooses so. That would include players coming from an offside position outside the box and then scoring a goal.

As for isolating lower levels of the game, once again take the example of Rugby and Hockey. That simply is not the case.


Video Technology is hardly groundbreaking stuff, every other sport has it! Blatter and some other old boys ( He is not alone) are simply being being a block to making the game better and modern.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Yes without a doubt.

But the old School like Sepp Blatter says not in his lifetime.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

If you resort to replays where do you stop, disputed corners, throw ins, fouls-- could be a big can of worms. Look at Argie and Mexico damned near had a riot.

Key words in this whole debate...

The only way to prevent it opening into one is the stipulation that you get one call to contest and that's it, no questions. Questioning fouls, yellows and reds is out of the scope of replay as it's more a judgement call than anything else, such as an umpires strike zone in baseball...so you're essentially talking the ball crossing the line, handball and a few other things. But again, you get one replay and that's it...it's the only feasible route if you go down this road.

The time needed to review the call should be added on.

 

[Allezfan]

The problem with the can of worms argument is it goes both ways.

"You start by not giving the refs video technology and next you're taking away their cards and their whistles and their linesmen and that little electornic board they use to show subs on. Where do you draw the line? If you're not careful, the ref will have everything taken off him, and end up starks bollocks naked and having to sing song lyrics to get people's attention and I don't think any of us want that."

I've always disliked that argument, really. It's basically saying 'I don't actually disagree with what you're proposing but I'm going to go against you anyway just in case someone else further down the line does propose something that I do disagree with and I've spontaniously lost the ability to judge cases by their own merits by then."

 

[MLS is not quite EPL]

while i think video technology will help with non-goals like Lampard's, you still have the issue of refs disallowing perfectly good goals due to phantom calls, phantom offsides, or anything else. I want more accountability from the refs, perhaps a separate ref for each "box" during corners/set pieces, or something along those lines.

We need to fix "Lampard" goals, but we also need to fix Edu and Dempsey "non-goals" as well. And Cahill's red? South African Keeper's red? consistency issues.

The refs are largely poor, and too much of the game is up to the judgement of one guy.... one guy who has nothing held accountable to him and seemingly no liability.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Looks like it will be agreed today, introduced mid season in the premier league.

 

[zed]

Looks like it will be agreed today, introduced mid season in the premier league.

what? do you mean 4 appeals per game? never gonna happen - the game is corrupt

 

[zed]

is this a joke? goal line technology ffs. once a season maybe? thousands of games get played and how many times do you need it? would be nice to get offsides right first

 

[Cena]

Congratulations Modern Football, you've won.

The Death Of Football as we know it

 

[njligernj]

is this a joke? goal line technology ffs. once a season maybe? thousands of games get played and how many times do you need it? would be nice to get offsides right first

It's a start so the people who apparently not only don't watch any sports other than football but aren't even aware of their existence can realize that it doesn't destroy the very fabric of the game. Honestly some of the arguments against it are some of the least logical things I've ever heard: "what's next, reviewing every single throw-in?" Seeing how nobody in the entire world -- even the most fervent replay supporter who might want 2 or so manager challenges per game (including the ability to reverse a red card or penalty) -- would want something like throw-ins reviewed I don't think it's really a concern.

That said, while I support video technology in sports I'm 50/50 on if it will work purely because the people in charge of football are some of the stupidest people on earth and through either incompetence or sabotage (RIP MCA) will make replays in football such a mess that they are removed. Still worth a shot though.

 

[njligernj]

The Death Of Football as we know it

Good riddance. I don't buy the whole "football is so unique and precious that reviewing a goal line decision will change it so much." Almost every other sport in the world which uses replay just got on with it and it has helped. Why does football have to be such a bunch of Helen Lovejoys?

Now let's get to changing a bunch of other rules (offside, mandatory time off the pitch for an injury which stops the game, exact timing to prevent time wasting by the leading team in the last 10 minutes or so of a game, post-game discipline for diving, more willingness to reverse unjust cards after the game) and we'll be watching a far better sport.

 

[Cena]

Good riddance. I don't buy the whole "football is so unique and precious that reviewing a goal line decision will change it so much." Almost every other sport in the world which uses replay just got on with it and it has helped. Why does football have to be such a bunch of Helen Lovejoys?

Now let's get to changing a bunch of other rules (offside, mandatory time off the pitch for an injury which stops the game, exact timing to prevent time wasting by the leading team in the last 10 minutes or so of a game, post-game discipline for diving, more willingness to reverse unjust cards after the game) and we'll be watching a far better sport.

Goal-line technology will do nothing but create divisions within the game, and it won't stop there. The game will become dull and uninteresting when everything gets referred to technology.

Again, something engineered for the TV companies rather than the paying fan at the match, football becoming more and more upper-middle class everyday.