Initial 10, then reduced to 6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Bluebonic]

They have got no case whatsoever against Everton as it was the league who decided on the timing of the hearing and they should be laughed out of court.

And the rs who will be claiming for seventy-twelve league and euro titles that they were deprived of due to Citeh’s corruption lol

 

[Bedfordblue]

Wonder if this is the PSR issue Moyes was referring to…..

 

[Blast_of_Cannock]

We should counter-sue them for infringing the trade description act. No way was Keane worth £25m. In fact, no way is Keane a footballer.

 

[brieverton]

Surprised at this, I assumed everything was boxed off at this point but clearly not.

I'm not an expert, but I can't see how Burnley can seek damages from Everton.

The governing authority is the Premier League, and it was according to their procedures and commissions appointed by them that we were found in breach and got the points deductions.

Those deductions could have been absolutely ruinous for us, they were unprecedented and heavy punushments. It's not Evertons problem as to the timing of them.

At what point does Everton seek damages? When will it be our turn? Do we claim for Clive Thomas, for Heysel, for Pierluigi Collina. Do we claim the Premier League damaged our reputation when it accused us initially of not acting in good faith, which they later retracted.

Should we ask the taxpayer to contribute towards Bramley Moore as Utd will do for their stadium?

This is madness.

 

[MikeH72]

I don’t understand what they are trying to sue us for? We received our punishment for breaching PSR. The fact that we received it a year late is a matter that is between the Premier League and Burnley. Case closed, off you pop you weird little six fingered inbreds.

 

[Gallaeo]

They have got no case whatsoever against Everton as it was the league who decided on the timing of the hearing and they should be laughed out of court.

Did Chelsea not get away with punishment for some under the table payments as “it was under previous ownership”?

But agree, this is on PL. we’ve taken our medicine

 

[MikeH72]

Wonder if this is the PSR issue Moyes was referring to…..

How’s this a PSR issue?

 

[Bedfordblue]

How’s this a PSR issue?

Well we’re apparently being sued by at least Burnley over our PSR breaches and its affect on them. This is due to go to court in the summer.

We’ve retained the services of the KC who represented us at the PSR hearings to defend us in said action.

Moyes said “I don't know all about PSR, but I do know we've still got some work to do in the summer. I was aware of it when I came in, but I'm hoping that we're going to stop thinking about that now and begin to start thinking about how we're moving forward.”

Think that can fall under the ‘PSR issues’ umbrella surely?

 

[MikeH72]

It would be interesting to read more about it, as there’s next to nothing being reported about it just now.

This relates to the 21/22 season, right?

Was this the season when the PL said we had ‘no case to answer’ having accepted all of our Covid mitigations, or the season where we should have had a points deduction but the PL’s incompetency caused the deduction to be delayed by a season?

Burnley weren’t even in the league that season. So actually they benefitted from the league’s decision to delay, as we ended up getting our deduction in 23/24 when they were in the league. Sadly they were so embarrassingly bad that they still finished below us and went down anyway. Not our problem really lads.

 

[b-rad]

Burnley weren’t even in the league that season. So actually they benefitted from the league’s decision to delay, as we ended up getting our deduction in 23/24 when they were in the league. Sadly they were so embarrassingly bad that they still finished below us and went down anyway. Not our problem really lads.

We had 8 points deducted and still finished 16 points above them.

 

[Dymak]

Burnley weren’t even in the league that season. So actually they benefitted from the league’s decision to delay, as we ended up getting our deduction in 23/24 when they were in the league. Sadly they were so embarrassingly bad that they still finished below us and went down anyway. Not our problem really lads.

Exactly, which makes me think that the litigation could possibly relate to a period before Everton were ever charged with a PSR breach. The only season that Burnley could possibly be whinging about would be the 21/22 season, when the PL said we had no case to answer following the application of Covid rules.

 

[peteblue]

Burnley still suing us over the deductions apparently with the case to be heard in the summer

I’ve given this a lot of thought and also sought out some top legal advice from various sources. The combined and agreed position is that Burnley are just a bunch of tossers……….

 

[larrygobfiend]

Will all of this ever end?

 

[b-rad]

Exactly, which makes me think that the litigation could possibly relate to a period before Everton were ever charged with a PSR breach. The only season that Burnley could possibly be whinging about would be the 21/22 season, when the PL said we had no case to answer following the application of Covid rules.

There were some clubs suggesting we should be hit with PSR the year before, but it's up to the PL to bring charges. They didn't.

Quite why Burnley think they know better is beyond me, and if they should be going after anyone it's the PL.

 

[Bedfordblue]

We had 8 points deducted and still finished 16 points above them.

There’s a few intangibles though I guess, which doesn’t exactly make for a strong case still…..
Arguments they could use are they abided the regs and had they not, they could have
A) beat us twice, gaining them 6 points and reducing the deficit to 4 points as we would lose also be 6 points worse off
B) only breached PSR 1 therefore only getting a 6 points penalty (putting them 10 points off is)
C) having improved the team beyond PSR limits, they could have won 3 more matches leaving them 2 points above us.
D) Argue that had we not breached PSR we wouldn’t have been so far clear and might not have beaten them twice or had some of the other wins or draws etc (assuming we did - cba checking!)


All very hypothetical / speculative, but just that’s the point, it’s hard to say what could or would have happened and likely why they are trying to sue.