If you could go back to change a result....

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1 - Liverpool Vs Whatever side they knocked out in the 1985 European Cup Semi Finals, so that I could change the result and avert English clubs getting banned from Europe

2 - 2009 Cup Final, cut me deep that

3 - 2012 FA Cup Semi Final

4 - That Palace game at Goodison towards the end of 13/14. Win that and Champions League could have been on

5 - The game with Villa Real in 2005
 
Wigan QF - if I remember rightly we'd have been drawn against Chelsea in the semi. No guarantee of even making the final, let alone winning it.


I am pretty sure Wigan drew a lower league team in the semi that season.

That is one of the things which hurt most about it.....we would have avoided City and had a really good chance of making the final.

From what I recall any road.
 
I agree all 5 matches were soul destroying losses at the time. But with hindsight, what would be the benefit of us winning some of them anyway? Obviously, the Villarreal one meant we'd have got into the CL groups and got loads of cash, and the 09 FA Cup final would have given us a trophy, but the other 3 may have been meaningless anyway.

Kiev away would only put us in the QF with another 4 matches before you even play in the final. I totally lost interest as soon as we got knocked out, so not even sure who we'd have played in the QF. Would we have even for to the semi?

Wigan QF - if I remember rightly we'd have been drawn against Chelsea in the semi. No guarantee of even making the final, let alone winning it.

Liverpool SF - we'd have played Chelsea in the final so not an easy game at all.

No, we'd have drawn Millwall
 
I didn't watch it, but I seem to recall the balls for the semi draw being in alphabetical order. If that's true, 1- Chelsea 2- Man C 3- Millwall 4- Wigan.

1 and 2 were drawn together, and 3 drew 4.

If we'd have beaten Wigan in the QF, that would have changed the draw. Alphabetically, we'd have been ball 2 and come out of the hat against Chelsea.

No, we'd have drawn Millwall

I know Wigan played Millwall, but if the above quote is correct, that doesn't mean we'd have played them too.

Can't confirm this cos I didn't watch it. I lose interest in the cup draw as soon as we get knocked out.
 

I know Wigan played Millwall, but if the above quote is correct, that doesn't mean we'd have played them too.

Can't confirm this cos I didn't watch it. I lose interest in the cup draw as soon as we get knocked out.


They don't go alphabetically at that stage.

It ceases to be that way after the third round draw.

And even at that stage the 20 PL clubs and 24 Championship ones are allocated 1 through 44 and the likes of, say Accrington Stanley being 45 at the very highest.

It is more to do with match number in the preceding round after that.

Ergo Everton woukd have had the same number as Wigan in the semi final draw.
 
Thought about this result a lot. The 85/86 season when we lost 3-2 to the RS at home after being 3-0 down at half time. If we'd won that game we would have won the title that year and it would have meant we would have won a hat trick of league titles having won it the year before and winning it in 86/87.
 
Think I would change this morning's result. Lost 3-2 and I missed a last minute penalty,hitting the post. Pathetic!!!
 

Villareal .
The clattenburg Derby.
Villa this season as they only stayed up by beating us.
The Gary mccallister Derby.
Chelsea Fa Cup final
 
Panathiniakos was the semi final team in 85. You only had to win 4 ties to make the final in those days. Very easy ties too.
Not just the result in regard to the implications for English football, but also 39 people and the numerous others effected by the horror from witnesses to families.

Any other result changed is only football related. Our sadness in defeat made another set of fans elated in victory.
As painful as some of our losses have been, and we have suffered an unbalanced amount of final heartbreak in my lifetime , it is still entertainment and a game at the end of the day, and that is from someone who is a terrible loser, I hate it when Everton get beat.
 
Panathiniakos was the semi final team in 85. You only had to win 4 ties to make the final in those days. Very easy ties too.

Yeah I thought the RS beat them in the semi too. Seem to remember they progressed very easily too, something like 4-0 at home, then 1-0 in the away leg. Remember Lawrenson scoring the winner in the away leg.
 
Fiorentina at home - if we had gone through then we would have buzzed off it all the way to the final, at least
the Hodgson derby - it was 2-0 and hilarious, but looking back at it that was the best chance we have had in ages to really grind them into the dirt, and plow salt over the remains so that nothing ever grew there ever again
arsenal 1998 - if for no other reason than to spare everyone a week having to deal with the absolute knowledge that we were going down
 
Just going back to our demise after Heysel, nobody will ever know if we'd have gone on to dominate at least English football for many years after this. People have got opinions on this, but it's in the realms of fantasy to predict what would have happened to the club if Heysel never happened.

Some say we'd have easily won the European Cup in 86, citing a poor final contested by two poor teams as evidence. But what's to say we'd have even got to the final? There's no denying our young team broke up, and our manager left, due to the European ban. Maybe if things worked out differently we'd have been a front runner at the formation of the PL, instead of lagging behind. Maybe we'd now be an established member of the English big guns, qualifying for the CL every season and be mega rich as a result.

Would be nice to think we'd have had unparalleled success domestically and in Europe in the late 80s if Heysel never happened, but it's something we'll never know. For example, with virtually the same team, with the exception of Lineker, we won nothing the season after. Not only that, but the RS chose that same year to win their only league and cup double.
 

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