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[Joey66]

Hello mate, where are these companies going to leave for considering that in the UK it is currently lower than Italy, Spain, France, Greece, Germany, Finland and The Netherlands?

Even with Labour's proposed increase, the UK would still have a lower corporation tax rate than France, Greece and Germany and be comparable with the rates of Italy, Spain and The Netherlands.


I'm genuinely interested to hear your thoughts mate.

Since it's been reduced an xtra 8 billion to the treasury??
Raising it will see an exodus of companies imo!

 

[Boss_Blue]

Since it's been reduced an xtra 8 billion to the treasury??
Raising it will see an exodus of companies imo!

Joey, mate, I'm asking where you think those companies will leave for considering corporation tax proposals under Labour would still mean that the UK would have a lower rate than France, Greece and Germany and be comparable with the rates of Italy, Spain and The Netherlands?

 

[Joey66]

Joey, mate, I'm asking where you think those companies will leave for considering corporation tax proposals under Labour would still mean that the UK would have a lower rate than France, Greece and Germany and be comparable with the rates of Italy, Spain and The Netherlands?

Southern Ireland -France as the new leader is looking st reducing corperstion tax, reducing it has raised an extra 8 billion so putting it up will make companies want to move or definitely stop companies arriving and in the era of Brexit it's the last thing we need if it does drop revenues more borrowing on a dodgy budget by Labours proposed 48 billion spend if that falls short we are stuffed - Look I voted Labour all my life, but Corbynism imo is doomed -let's see if he wins hope he proves me long !

 

[ricardobee]

Did I just hear on BBC news that the tories have shaken babies during their campaign...?

 

[ricardobee]

yes. yes I did.



They really are the nasty party, they'll stop at nothing to stay in power

 

[Boss_Blue]

Southern Ireland

Ireland is the world's 39th largest economy (2017 YTD) whilst Germany, which has a higher corporation tax than the UK is currently one place ahead of us in 4th.

Why aren't all the businesses in Germany deserting them for Ireland? Again, genuine question.

France as the new leader is looking st reducing corperstion tax

To 25%, comparable to the rate (26%) that Labour are proposing.

reducing it has raised an extra 8 billion so putting it up will make companies want to move or definitely stop companies arriving and in the era of Brexit it's the last thing we need if it does drop revenues more borrowing on a dodgy budget by Labours proposed 48 billion spend if that falls short we are stuffed

Whose estimates are these based on and how much have we lost in tax by reducing it?

It feels like you are basing your opinion on fear and not facts, which is exactly what those in big business and the Tory party want.

Look I voted Labour all my life, but Corbynism imo is domed let's see if he wins hope he proves me long !

Your opinion is your own mate but I'm struggling to see what it is you are basing it on other than Tory scaremongering.

 

[PITA]

Ireland is the world's 39th largest economy (2017 YTD) whilst Germany, which has a higher corporation tax than the UK is currently one place ahead of us in 4th.

Why aren't all the businesses in Germany deserting them for Ireland? Again, genuine question.


To 25%, comparable to the rate (26%) that Labour are proposing.


Whose estimates are these based on and how much have we lost in tax by reducing it?

It feels like you are basing your opinion on fear and not facts, which is exactly what those in big business and the Tory party want.


Your opinion is your own mate but I'm struggling to see what it is you are basing it on other than Tory scaremongering.

Top schooling.

 

[Joey66]

Top schooling.

Look we have the lowest corporation tax in the G7 - its fetched in companies - jobs etc extra revenue of 8 billion not Tory retric Andrew Neil on the DP stated that as fact!
@Boss_ blue lets see who wins - imo if we had a centre ground leader Labour would have won this with ease with better more logical financial policies - I am no Tory , but I see corbynism as a short lived term era ok!

 

[PITA]

Look we have the lowest corporation tax in the G7 - its fetched in companies - jobs etc extra revenue of 8 billion not Tory retric Andrew Neil on the DP stated that as fact!
@Boss_ blue lets see who wins - imo if we had a centre ground leader Labour would have won this with ease with better more logical financial policies - I am no Tory , but I see corbynism as a short lived term era ok!

Right.

 

[bring the ghost on]

Look I voted Labour all my life

You can't complain about a rise in corporation tax which brings the rate in line with mainland Europe and then claim you're a die hard Labour man.

its fetched in companies - jobs etc extra revenue of 8 billion not Tory retric Andrew Neil on the DP stated that as fact!

Well if Andrew Neil said it, it must be fact.

imo if we had a centre ground leader Labour would have won this with ease

How did that work out for Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband?

 

[Joey66]

You can't complain about a rise in corporation tax which brings the rate in line with mainland Europe and then claim you're a die hard Labour man.



Well if Andrew Neil said it, it must be fact.



How did that work out for Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband?

Red ED you mean ?
I voted for him - let's see how Jezza compares tomorrow?

 

[bring the ghost on]

let's see how Jezza compares tomorrow?

The Tories will win, but that doesn't prove your point that Labour would win with a bland centrist as leader, hence the Miliband/Brown comment - two centrists ("Red Ed" is the most ridiculous caricature Ive ever heard of) who didn't stand a chance.

Labour is in trouble and has been for some time.

 

[Joey66]

The Tories will win, but that doesn't prove your point that Labour would win with a bland centrist as leader, hence the Miliband/Brown comment - two centrists ("Red Ed" is the most ridiculous caricature Ive ever heard of) who didn't stand a chance.

Labour is in trouble and has been for some time.

It saddens me to see Labour in disarray ok Corbyn has had a far better campaign imo - May has almost handed it to Labour if we had a Dan Jarvis or a Keir Starmmer style leader , I would be voting Labour deffo it's sad I am staying away from the voting booth tomorrow no left wing parties are doing well in Europe, but you never say never Jezza may pull it off!

 

[bring the ghost on]

If we had a Dan Jarvis or a Keir Starmmer style leader , I would be voting Labour deffo

I like Keir Starmer, but there is no saying that just because Jarvis and Starmer are presentable, well spoken, media-friendly politicans that they would be any more successful than Corbyn.

Corbyn has managed to inspire a lot of people in this campaign. What I don't think he has done is convince the swing voters, but I think thats a more serious problem which Labour have to address - how is that achievable without compromising in the extreme on its principles?

 

[Joey66]

I like Keir Starmer, but there is no saying that just because Jarvis and Starmer are presentable, well spoken, media-friendly politicans that they would be any more successful than Corbyn.

Corbyn has managed to inspire a lot of people in this campaign. What I don't think he has done is convince the swing voters, but I think thats a more serious problem which Labour have to address - how is that achievable without compromising in the extreme on its principles?

It's the team around Corbyn that's toxic to me great principles but the IFS have criticised it the chancellor ex GLC overspending clown is my main worry !
Starmer would surely get a better team around him, and perhaps have better policies costed more astutely - think back 80 percent of PLP,MPs wanted rid of Corbyn !