Confirmed Signing Idrissa Gueye

[Spadge Vernacular]

I think people misunderstand freedom of expression here. Evidently he was free to express himself, even at the cost of his club and team mates because of the fact that he chose to express his view that he does not like gay people (seen as he happily wore Chang on his shirt at Everton, and if he returned he would wear Stake, and as far as I’m aware both gambling and alcohol consumption are haram)

The flip side is, society is also free to express that someone refusing to do their job because they don’t like gay people is a pretty grim way to behave

You know him do you?

 

[ChesterBlue]

You know him do you?

Why else would he refuse to wear a rainbow, but be happy to wear other branding which is against his religion?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Why else would he refuse to wear a rainbow, but be happy to wear other branding which is against his religion?

I take it that is a 'no' then.

 

[LostLegend]

Genuinely appreciate you sharing your perspective on this. Makes a lot of sense to me.
Thanks for the insight!

And just to add this in because I can, I could actually go on for longer about these campaigns championed by a governing body that has no qualms hosting a World Cup in a country that still executes people for being gay.

The hypocrisy within the sport is frankly ludicrous.

[/rant]

 

[ChesterBlue]

I take it that is a 'no' then.

Great gotcha, like Ben Shapiro in his prime, aren’t you?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Great gotcha, like Ben Shapiro in his prime, aren’t you?

It is OK mate, I was just checking. ?

Everton aimerait faire revenir Idrissa Gueye (PSG)

Everton a établi des premiers contacts avec l'entourage d'Idrissa Gueye, milieu du PSG, pour connaître la faisabilité d'un retour en Premier League de l'international sénégalais.

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If this comes of it could prove to be our best signing for some time.

 

[toffee66]

To be honest his on pitch decline last year is a bigger worry to me than him exercising his personal right to freedom of expression in a way I do not personally approve by choosing not to go on the pitch wearing a rainbow.

He isn’t the same player he was when he left us and for me that is why we should not be contemplating this. Age has begun to slightly erode his speed, mobility and stamina, which are the foundations of his game.

 

[DL100]

What do you mean belief/believe in? Since when were LGBT people some kind of mythical thing like Bigfoot? They’re people just like everyone else.

And yes if he wants to be a disgusting bigot then his work opportunities should be effected.

How do you know Bigfoot doesn't exist?

Don't try to twist it. When I say his religious beliefs that is exactly what I mean. He doesn't want to wear an LGBT tshirt because his religion forbids it, he shouldnt be forced to do so in the first place.

I think your reading too much into it all and overreacting.

 

[Howard's Beard]

How do you know Bigfoot doesn't exist?

Don't try to twist it. When I say his religious beliefs that is exactly what I mean. He doesn't want to wear an LGBT tshirt because his religion forbids it, he shouldnt be forced to do so in the first place.

I think your reading too much into it all and overreacting.

He wasn't forced to do so, as evidenced by the fact that he didn't. Some classic misunderstanding of what 'freedom of expression' means here.

 

[CJR]

A little bit split on this one, do I want him back, probably not, if we are not getting anyone else in that position then yes he is better than what we have and we have not replaced his energy and mobility since he left. In an ideal world no, but considering our position and the lack of alternatives we are linked with then it is probably a yes

 

[Pettifogger]

I do think you can make an argument that there is a distinction between wearing a sponsor, that everyone knows is paying for the privilege, and wearing a social message that the club is promoting gratis, in part of a semi-political/semi-cultural/etc. campaign. Of course, I suppose Gana could wear the shirt and claim he did it because it was the club's shirt and he's part of the club even if he doesn't support the club's messaging. But not sure that would limit any of the criticism directed toward him, TBH.

Regardless, love Gana. I don't want to saddle us with extra weight that isn't performing, but he always seemed like exactly the type of hard worker/ideal teammate we need more of if FL is going to successfully rebuild this thing.

 

[varnish]

Even with one leg he’s a better layer than any in our squad. If he was currently playing for Burnley he’d be signed by now.

 

[bigboy]

How do you know Bigfoot doesn't exist?

Don't try to twist it. When I say his religious beliefs that is exactly what I mean. He doesn't want to wear an LGBT tshirt because his religion forbids it, he shouldnt be forced to do so in the first place.

I think your reading too much into it all and overreacting.

Not sure what I’m twisting. Religious beliefs don’t change the reality of LGBT people and hiding behind religion is just a cop out, just call it out for what it is.

He wasn’t forced to do anything, he refused of his own will and as such has to face being called out on it.

And I’m not overreacting, I don’t want someone with those views representing my club

 

[windymiller]

Never go back, it almost never works.

 

[davids]

Not sure what I’m twisting. Religious beliefs don’t change the reality of LGBT people and hiding behind religion is just a cop out, just call it out for what it is.

He wasn’t forced to do anything, he refused of his own will and as such has to face being called out on it.

And I’m not overreacting, I don’t want someone with those views representing my club

It's now LGBTQQIP2SAA please keep up.