Ian Wright on Everton and David Moyes

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I've watched it everything he's said is correct bar the 25m-30m player shout.

He was lead into the conversation about Everton.

If we finish in the top 4 it will be down to good coaching and a bit of luck. True.

We don't have the squad to finish off (reach top 4). True.

Moyes has took us as far as he can without money. True

Martinez would be in the same bout. True

I listened and although he doesn't think much of our club, he's not the only one. Outsiders just see us as punching above our weight. But a good side. Nothing more.

What do you want him to say. Everton are dead on for fourth. Moyes can win the league without money. Everton have the top 4 best squad in the league. Everything said is correct.

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"Hey then well it's here, balls street, we're doing it. it's happening, where football ain't about the top six. Follows us at ball_street. Marcus is here, Marcus touch it baby we're going to do it, lets do it man"

So first up, premier league, what are we going to talk about"....... Then the interviewer starts talking. The interviewer talks about three current, as in this season, themes. Then says we're going to talk about the team in seventh, then corrects himself to add in the previous season.

If he's being led into it, then what the fish is the point of the show? Surely it's his show? He's the host? Am I missing something? Did he not get a transcript of what was going to be discussed before hand?

He wasn't led into anything, and the show contrives to talk about a team outside of the top six by doing something called 'context switching'. it's commonly used in politics, and sales, look it up ;) Also women use it, luckily I'm single so I can get away with that one for the moment.



As for the rest of your post, you do realise he's denuding the facts, which is the opposite of embellishment. You've admitted that you got from that clip that he doesn't think much of our club, how did you come to that conclusion if he was just being totally factual with no bias?

I don't expect him to be anything aside from himself, which is a tit. He's being totally disrespectful, and to conclude the rebuttal. Here's the main points with his bias, and inclusive of context, which you've decided to leave out:

Point one (abridgement of above): He sets the theme for the show, and that's to discuss teams other than the top 6. Interviewer wants to talk about last season, and not this season. Wright as the host has the opportunity to correct him, and doesn't. If the show is about the clubs outside the top six, then why is he discussing a side in the top six. If the show is about last seasons league, then what's the point of talking about this season?

Point two: Should David Moyes stay or should he go: Wright says he should go, which there is nothing wrong with saying that. It's his reasons for saying it that's the problem. The interviewer points out we're consistent and we pack out the stadium each week, he then goes on the offensive. If he had any real merit to his point that packing out a stadium doesn't mean anything, well the rest of the football league might as well pack up shop right now and you might as well become a Man U fan this season, and change to a City or who ever next season. It's a dumb ass comment.

Point Three, the interviewer points out an impressive record of consistency, and even says 'that's great stats'. Wrights body language and tone then lead into the spout of crap that then coms out of his gob. Sure we lack depth in our squad, but like I've already pointed out you can say that about everyone aside from City and Man U this season. You can even make a strong argument for Chelsea not having a strong enough squad to finish off the season. If we finish in Fourth, we'll finish there because of hard work and players giving it their all, luck is what you make of it. He's trying to make out luck just happens, if that's the case why don't we just buy a bunch of lucky players?

This then leads into the interviewer asking him what is getting rid of Moyes going to do, he has no answer for it and babbles. Stend, when you're having a pop with no substance behind your argument aside from your'e being a tit and a bell end that doesn't like the club your discussing, this is generally where you come unstuck, when you're confronted with a question like the interviewer posed. He then has a think about it, then brings up the relevance of money.

Point Four: Investment. This is where he becomes totally unstuck.

He has two courses of attack

1/ Blatantly says Moyes would only stay at Everton because he's been here so long he'd want to finish things off. The way he puts it across, with a few sigs and negative body language, is that Moyes isn't here for the fans and it's just a job for him. Is Moyes really a mercenary? Or do you think he actually cares about the club and the fans, I think even his most ardent detractor would admit he has a close relationship with the club, players, and the fans and cares deeply. He's far from a pay check type manager. He then concludes with saying that if we had money, it wouldn't matter anyway because no one would want to play for us, wtf? How on earth can you defend this crap.

Are you a RS fan by any chance? You sound a lot like one......
 
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Direct Quote:

"Hey then well it's here, balls street, we're doing it. it's happening, where football ain't about the top six. Follows us at ball_street. Marcus is here, Marcus touch it baby we're going to do it, lets do it man"

So first up, premier league, what are we going to talk about"....... Then the interviewer starts talking. The interviewer talks about three current, as in this season, themes. Then says we're going to talk about the team in seventh, then corrects himself to add in the previous season.

If he's being led into it, then what the fish is the point of the show? Surely it's his show? He's the host? Am I missing something? Did he not get a transcript of what was going to be discussed before hand?

He wasn't led into anything, and the show contrives to talk about a team outside of the top six by doing something called 'context switching'. it's commonly used in politics, and sales, look it up ;) Also women use it, luckily I'm single so I can get away with that one for the moment.



As for the rest of your post, you do realise he's denuding the facts, which is the opposite of embellishment. You've admitted that you got from that clip that he doesn't think much of our club, how did you come to that conclusion if he was just being totally factual with no bias?

I don't expect him to be anything aside from himself, which is a tit. He's being totally disrespectful, and to conclude the rebuttal. Here's the main points with his bias, and inclusive of context, which you've decided to leave out:

Point one (abridgement of above): He sets the theme for the show, and that's to discuss teams other than the top 6. Interviewer wants to talk about last season, and not this season. Wright as the host has the opportunity to correct him, and doesn't. If the show is about the clubs outside the top six, then why is he discussing a side in the top six. If the show is about last seasons league, then what's the point of talking about this season?

Point two: Should David Moyes stay or should he go: Wright says he should go, which there is nothing wrong with saying that. It's his reasons for saying it that's the problem. The interviewer points out we're consistent and we pack out the stadium each week, he then goes on the offensive. If he had any real merit to his point that packing out a stadium doesn't mean anything, well the rest of the football league might as well pack up shop right now and you might as well become a Man U fan this season, and change to a City or who ever next season. It's a dumb ass comment.

Point Three, the interviewer points out an impressive record of consistency, and even says 'that's great stats'. Wrights body language and tone then lead into the spout of crap that then coms out of his gob. Sure we lack depth in our squad, but like I've already pointed out you can say that about everyone aside from City and Man U this season. You can even make a strong argument for Chelsea not having a strong enough squad to finish off the season. If we finish in Fourth, we'll finish there because of hard work and players giving it their all, luck is what you make of it. He's trying to make out luck just happens, if that's the case why don't we just buy a bunch of lucky players?

This then leads into the interviewer asking him what is getting rid of Moyes going to do, he has no answer for it and babbles. Stend, when you're having a pop with no substance behind your argument aside from your'e being a tit and a bell end that doesn't like the club your discussing, this is generally where you come unstuck, when you're confronted with a question like the interviewer posed. He then has a think about it, then brings up the relevance of money.

Point Four: Investment. This is where he becomes totally unstuck.

He has two courses of attack

1/ Blatantly says Moyes would only stay at Everton because he's been here so long he'd want to finish things off. The way he puts it across, with a few sigs and negative body language, is that Moyes isn't here for the fans and it's just a job for him. Is Moyes really a mercenary? Or do you think he actually cares about the club and the fans, I think even his most ardent detractor would admit he has a close relationship with the club, players, and the fans and cares deeply. He's far from a pay check type manager. He then concludes with saying that if we had money, it wouldn't matter anyway because no one would want to play for us, wtf? How on earth can you defend this crap.

Are you a RS fan by any chance? You sound a lot like one......

Wonderful...

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Direct Quote:

"Hey then well it's here, balls street, we're doing it. it's happening, where football ain't about the top six. Follows us at ball_street. Marcus is here, Marcus touch it baby we're going to do it, lets do it man"

So first up, premier league, what are we going to talk about"....... Then the interviewer starts talking. The interviewer talks about three current, as in this season, themes. Then says we're going to talk about the team in seventh, then corrects himself to add in the previous season.

If he's being led into it, then what the fish is the point of the show? Surely it's his show? He's the host? Am I missing something? Did he not get a transcript of what was going to be discussed before hand?

He wasn't led into anything, and the show contrives to talk about a team outside of the top six by doing something called 'context switching'. it's commonly used in politics, and sales, look it up ;) Also women use it, luckily I'm single so I can get away with that one for the moment.



As for the rest of your post, you do realise he's denuding the facts, which is the opposite of embellishment. You've admitted that you got from that clip that he doesn't think much of our club, how did you come to that conclusion if he was just being totally factual with no bias?

I don't expect him to be anything aside from himself, which is a tit. He's being totally disrespectful, and to conclude the rebuttal. Here's the main points with his bias, and inclusive of context, which you've decided to leave out:

Point one (abridgement of above): He sets the theme for the show, and that's to discuss teams other than the top 6. Interviewer wants to talk about last season, and not this season. Wright as the host has the opportunity to correct him, and doesn't. If the show is about the clubs outside the top six, then why is he discussing a side in the top six. If the show is about last seasons league, then what's the point of talking about this season?

Point two: Should David Moyes stay or should he go: Wright says he should go, which there is nothing wrong with saying that. It's his reasons for saying it that's the problem. The interviewer points out we're consistent and we pack out the stadium each week, he then goes on the offensive. If he had any real merit to his point that packing out a stadium doesn't mean anything, well the rest of the football league might as well pack up shop right now and you might as well become a Man U fan this season, and change to a City or who ever next season. It's a dumb ass comment.

Point Three, the interviewer points out an impressive record of consistency, and even says 'that's great stats'. Wrights body language and tone then lead into the spout of crap that then coms out of his gob. Sure we lack depth in our squad, but like I've already pointed out you can say that about everyone aside from City and Man U this season. You can even make a strong argument for Chelsea not having a strong enough squad to finish off the season. If we finish in Fourth, we'll finish there because of hard work and players giving it their all, luck is what you make of it. He's trying to make out luck just happens, if that's the case why don't we just buy a bunch of lucky players?

This then leads into the interviewer asking him what is getting rid of Moyes going to do, he has no answer for it and babbles. Stend, when you're having a pop with no substance behind your argument aside from your'e being a tit and a bell end that doesn't like the club your discussing, this is generally where you come unstuck, when you're confronted with a question like the interviewer posed. He then has a think about it, then brings up the relevance of money.

Point Four: Investment. This is where he becomes totally unstuck.

He has two courses of attack

1/ Blatantly says Moyes would only stay at Everton because he's been here so long he'd want to finish things off. The way he puts it across, with a few sigs and negative body language, is that Moyes isn't here for the fans and it's just a job for him. Is Moyes really a mercenary? Or do you think he actually cares about the club and the fans, I think even his most ardent detractor would admit he has a close relationship with the club, players, and the fans and cares deeply. He's far from a pay check type manager. He then concludes with saying that if we had money, it wouldn't matter anyway because no one would want to play for us, wtf? How on earth can you defend this crap.

Are you a RS fan by any chance? You sound a lot like one......

No need for the essay mate. The interview was much simpler than you're making out. I've touched base with it all. We aren't a top 4 side on paper. Unfortunately that's true mate. Moyes has took us a far as he can go without money and Moyes knows this himself.

He was led into talking about Everton no matter how you try and say he wasn't. Yes he could have stopped and said "but their sixth". He obviously doesn't see us as a top 6 side.

Regarding being a kopite mate..... I look outside the box without my blue tinted glasses on mate. We aren't this massive club anymore. Without serious money we will always be knocking on the door and that's that.
 


No need for the essay mate. The interview was much simpler than you're making out. I've touched base with it all. We aren't a top 4 side on paper. Unfortunately that's true mate. Moyes has took us a far as he can go without money and Moyes knows this himself.

He was led into talking about Everton no matter how you try and say he wasn't. Yes he could have stopped and said "but their sixth". He obviously doesn't see us as a top 6 side.

Regarding being a kopite mate..... I look outside the box without my blue tinted glasses on mate. We aren't this massive club anymore. Without serious money we will always be knocking on the door and that's that.

It was simple, which is why I can't understand how you can see he doesn't like us, but then try and claim he was being nothing but factual. I stand by my original point, he was denuding facts. Most communication is done with our body language and tone, that's what give words context.

Technically we were a top 4 side up until a few months ago. If the season ends and we're not in the top 4, then you will accurate in your description of us.

I dont' care if he doesn't see as as a top six club, the show was supposed to be about discussing facts about the current season.

You seem to be still missing the point that TV shows run off scripts, he would have been briefed on the questions that were going to be asked before hand. Nothing happened by accident on the show, he knew before hand what the four topics of the show were going to be. He was the host after all. So no, he wasn't led into talking about anything. They don't make up what they're going to talk about for the entire show off the cuff.

You don't have to have blue tinted glasses on to see that show for what it was, you do need to have red tinted glasses on though to conclude he was being fair and totally factual without bias.
 

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