Ian Ross Statement

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I certainly won't argue with you in that regards (treating the paying customer respectfully) but why is it that supporters think they can just email/phone up the head PR guy of a professional sports team and think they'd get answers?

If someone here in the States tried that with my local MLB team (Houston Astros) they'd be told in no uncertain terms "no comment" as it's really none of their business. If they were accused of "constant lying," they'd be laughed at and rightfully so.

Sure, they could vote with their feet and quit going to games all because they didn't get the answers they liked or answers period but they'd be in the very small minority. Just because you buy a ticket to the game, you think you can get answers whenever you feel like asking? Heh. I don't think so.

That will be down to the fact that, in general, in England Football clubs grew from working class communities, so people feel a sense of ownership over them without actually having any business connection to them. Unlike the Franchised American system. At the moment most English clubs are stuck inbetween the old style and the "business" style, and we appear to be no different.
 

I think he's got every right to saying nothing especially if someone said he was a liar.

Good intentions and all that, but to say (even if you didnt call him that in your wording) why the board were "lying" to the fans, you might as well have just put "Dear Ian, you and the board are coonts", you would've got the same answers he gave.

No offense at you Ghost but its getting to a point where the club says nothing and everyone goes nutty and spin conspiricies, or someone says something and everyone does the same anyway.
 
I think he's got every right to saying nothing especially if someone said he was a liar.

Good intentions and all that, but to say (even if you didnt call him that in your wording) why the board were "lying" to the fans, you might as well have just put "Dear Ian, you and the board are coonts", you would've got the same answers he gave.

No offense at you Ghost but its getting to a point where the club says nothing and everyone goes nutty and spin conspiricies, or someone says something and everyone does the same anyway.
Agreed
 
Has anyone found Moyes statement that he had 'millions to spend'? I've been looking for 10 minutes and can't find it, despite the fact it was yesterday. Therein is Ian Ross' lack of ability in his job. As someone has rightly pointed out his standard response should be 'no comment' on things that could get him into trouble.
He is a firefighter for the club who thinks he is chairman of the board

Yeah been looking for that too,
 
That will be down to the fact that in England Football clubs grew from working class communities, so people feel a sense of ownership over them without actually having any business connection to them. Unlike the Franchised American system. At the moment most English clubs are stuck inbetween the old style and the "business" style, and we appear to be no different.

That makes sense then.

Thanks for the clarification.
 

I think he's got every right to saying nothing especially if someone said he was a liar.

Good intentions and all that, but to say (even if you didnt call him that in your wording) why the board were "lying" to the fans, you might as well have just put "Dear Ian, you and the board are coonts", you would've got the same answers he gave.

No offense at you Ghost but its getting to a point where the club says nothing and everyone goes nutty and spin conspiricies, or someone says something and everyone does the same anyway.

No offence taken, but its not like I'm charging down his house with my pitch fork. The club lied to us over Kirkby, he is involved with that, even if he is the mouthpiece, he still lied to us about it.

I have spent a quarter of a century pouring my life and soul into this club, I think I'm entitled to some answers.
 
Ghost,
We have a show over here called 20/20 and you would fit in great as a investigative reporter for it. Appreciate keeping us up to speed on developments. Looks like he(Ross) isn't being very candid at all. Why does this all have to happen at this crucial time? Well the last installment of the three ring circus left us in fourth place a few years ago. Moyes deserves every penny putting up all this drama.
 
Well maybe things are not going to be as bad as we think. Maybe its all rumour that has collided with more rumours, 2 + 2 = 5 etc....

Don't worry guys and girls.
 
The art of influence:

If you want information from someone, don't accuse them of being a liar.

You might not like him, but it's not Ian Ross who dictates policy. Shoot the messenger if you like but it gets nobody nowhere very fast.

By arguing with the guy, you're simply closing avenues of communication for yourself and others. We're all pissed off at the situation but lets look at the evidence:

What have we all gained from your exchange? No information and a 2 pissed off parties. Being courteous and biting your tongue may have got you a couple of nuggets of truth.
 
I think he's got every right to saying nothing especially if someone said he was a liar.

Good intentions and all that, but to say (even if you didnt call him that in your wording) why the board were "lying" to the fans, you might as well have just put "Dear Ian, you and the board are coonts", you would've got the same answers he gave.

No offense at you Ghost but its getting to a point where the club says nothing and everyone goes nutty and spin conspiricies, or someone says something and everyone does the same anyway.

Agreed.

Its not up to Ian what he can disclose to the public. He has to be given permission first, and im sure he is not going to disclose it to somebody in a email.

I am sure that Ghost is upset but calling him a liar when you don't really have any concrete proof is downright childish and its no wonder he responded as he did, would you accept being called a liar?
 

I got what I wanted out of it. I studied Journalism, I know journalists, I work in the media, I know how it works.

Job done.

Well one more job, where's that ignore button?
 
I promise to send nicer emails to people if someone pays me 70k per annum. I can also trawl through Everton related websites during my work hours.

On second thoughts, I do the latter already and I'm not paid that much :(
 

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