How was Goodison tonight?

[MichaelEFC96]

Loads of reasons.

Enormity of the game.....a crowd will react more raucously in a massive game, particularly one where their team are not clear favourites than it will in a run of the mill game against opposition they perceive to be inferior

That game was under the lights.....always enhances the atmosphere.

The presence of a pantomime villain.....in this case Cup of Coffee, last week it was Noble.

Sense of expectation....the winds of change are now howling around L4 and the fans are enthused again. There is a genuine belief that things are about to change for the better.

Most important of all, away fans.....three or four times the amount of away fans than in a normal game. It has been said before but the decreased atmosphere evident at most top EPL teams these days is in a great part due to the low percentage of away fans.

What you're saying is right, my point is the atmosphere should be pumped for every game, whether it's Norwich or Chelsea. Players are motivated more therefore you would see a massive increase in urgency and tempo rather than a more cautious and slow approach - which in my opinion would lead to more victories. It's not just Goodison though, the atmosphere across the PL is dire.

 

[Khalekan]

What you're saying is right, my point is the atmosphere should be pumped for every game, whether it's Norwich or Chelsea. Players are motivated more therefore you would see a massive increase in urgency and tempo rather than a more cautious and slow approach - which in my opinion would lead to more victories. It's not just Goodison though, the atmosphere across the PL is dire.

I disagree with that.

(But not the bit about the EPL atmosphere being dire in general)

The crowd was pumped up from the start on Saturday......but the players were pretty cautious and there was no great tempo in the first half.

They were sent out with a game plan and they adhered to it despite the frenetic atmosphere in the ground.

And everyone understood that and the players did what they had to do, stifle Chelsea, and the crowd did what they had to do, intimidate them.

Whether you like it or not, as Fresh Prince says, any crowd at any EPL ground is going to be more up for the likes of Chelsea or United coming to town than they are when Bournemouth or Norwich come a' calling.

It is just human nature.

 

[Fresh Prince of Belle Val]

We should all know now most games in the Premier League are tough. Watford came to Goodison and almost beat us. If the atmosphere was like that every week we'd be higher in the table in my opinion.

True, but it's easier said than done.

 

[hullefc]

I disagree with that.

(But not the bit about the EPL atmosphere being dire in general)

The crowd was pumped up from the start on Saturday......but the players were pretty cautious and there was no great tempo in the first half.

But everyone understood that and the players did what they had to do, stifle Chelsea, and the crowd did what they had to do, intimidate them.

Whether you like it or not, as Fresh Prince says, any crowd at any EPL ground is going to be more up for the likes of Chelsea or United coming to town than they are when Bournemouth or Norwich come a' calling.

It is just human nature.

I thought the way Barry wound up Costa and the way he reacted enhanced the hostility. Thought Barry played a blinder on that score, as well as having a good game.

Barry has been around long enough to know that a hostile Goodison Park is very intimidating. And you could see and feel the anger when Barry went down after a challenge by Costa. I don't think there is a more intimidating ground than Goodison when it is angry. Sometimes I can't believe how the crowd will get so angry even when a throw in goes against us.

The away allocation should definitely be increased which would add to the atmosphere for most of the games. But it also depends on how important the game is.

 

[MichaelEFC96]

I disagree with that.

(But not the bit about the EPL atmosphere being dire in general)

The crowd was pumped up from the start on Saturday......but the players were pretty cautious and there was no great tempo in the first half.

They were sent out with a game plan and they adhered to it despite the frenetic atmosphere in the ground.

And everyone understood that and the players did what they had to do, stifle Chelsea, and the crowd did what they had to do, intimidate them.

Whether you like it or not, as Fresh Prince says, any crowd at any EPL ground is going to be more up for the likes of Chelsea or United coming to town than they are when Bournemouth or Norwich come a' calling.

It is just human nature.

Fair point.

Another point I want to make is that when the atmosphere is like what it was on Saturday it makes going the game much more enjoyable - could try generating something similar against the teams with more expectation on us, but not everyone would conform to that, which is fair enough because it's their money and they decide what they do during the game.

 

[royalblue66]

I did enjoy the spoilt brats,throwing their free scarves on to the pitch.

 

[Yorkie]

I did enjoy the spoilt brats,throwing their free scarves on to the pitch.

I couldn't see properly from there I was, any pictures /videos of it?

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

We should all know now most games in the Premier League are tough. Watford came to Goodison and almost beat us. If the atmosphere was like that every week we'd be higher in the table in my opinion.

But if we played like we had a workable/flexible plan every week maybe the atmosphere wouldn't be so bad. Far to often we stick plan A and refuse to alter or adapt despite the fact that it obviously isn't working. We played like a team that knew what it was doing on Sat and it worked, we don't need to go gung-ho to get the fans going. Yes the atmosphere should be better for all matches but it's never going to happen sadly. It can and will improve however if we start playing like we did on Sat. Not necessarily the style but the commitment, the fight and the general desire to win that we sadly seam to of lacked for large portions of the last two season.

 

[royalblue66]

I couldn't see properly from there I was, any pictures /videos of it?

There was Rent Boy scarves down Bullens road after the game.

 

[Yorkie]

There was Rent Boy scarves down Bullens road after the game.

Saw that I was just hoping for a gif of a load getting thrown like this

 

[MichaelEFC96]

But if we played like we had a workable/flexible plan every week maybe the atmosphere wouldn't be so bad. Far to often we stick plan A and refuse to alter or adapt despite the fact that it obviously isn't working. We played like a team that knew what it was doing on Sat and it worked, we don't need to go gung-ho to get the fans going. Yes the atmosphere should be better for all matches but it's never going to happen sadly. It can and will improve however if we start playing like we did on Sat. Not necessarily the style but the commitment, the fight and the general desire to win that we sadly seam to of lacked for large portions of the last two season.

To be honest the manager is to blame for the appalling home form but the question is why do we wait for something to happen to start generating noise? Not just Goodison but pretty much every ground is like that in the PL. Other countries like Germany and Spain generate noise no matter what.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

To be honest the manager is to blame for the appalling home form but the question is why do we wait for something to happen to start generating noise? Not just Goodison but pretty much every ground is like that in the PL. Other countries like Germany and Spain generate noise no matter what.

Germany maybe but Spain absolutely not. I don't know if you've ever been to a La Liga match but I've been to several now and I can tell you throughy first hand experience that the atmosphere is worse then the premiership in most games. With Germany it might have something to do with the fact that they haven't out priced their working class fans. I've said it before but if clubs insist on treating their fans like customers don't be surprised if they have an entitled attitude. I don't agree with it myself but I can see why some might have that attitude while we continue to pay such disgustingly inflated prices.