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Never. Instead,the entire squad needs a harsh team talk at half time for the rest of the season ON THE PITCH! In other words, do a Phil Brown.
 
Yeah cos both of them have been worse than the rest of the team. Dear God get a clue. The only players who have performed like they should would probably be Howard, Baines and Fellaini.

Arteta needs a defensive midfielder by him, and he is a creative player in a non creative team.

Bily has a great shot and cross and great skill, but is slow and cant defend - so Moyes plays him on the wing, for Russia he plays centrally like many are calling for. When a ball falls to the edge of the box he is the one you want on it, he wants to shoot and cant on the left. Moyes plays him in positions that dont make sense
 
As Dom1878 said, Bily is too slow to play outside. More importantly, he does not have the instincts to play it at the Prem level. The game is just too fast and violent for him out there. He is not an aggressive player in space, and plays too soft there. He needs to play centrally, and up high where his defensive and tackling liabilities are minimized, and where he can play more stationary. He has great skills in traffic, where speed, power and aggression are not needed, and where his ball skills can create scoring opportunities and he can get off his shot, which is terrific and can be made at multiple angles.

As for Arteta, I would quietly shop him to see what we could get. I would sell him, but at a very high price only. A continiental team may see him as a great fit.
 


Every manager makes signings that dont always work. I dont blame Moyes, because on his day Bily can be a handful. Problem is he doesn't have enough of them to be worth what we paid.
 

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