Harry Catterick.

[Dario Terracotta]

They were certainly the rumours at the time but I have no idea if there was any truth in them. i think Catt knew his methods worked best for shortish intense periods of time, the cost of the main stand was in the background, the exits to panathanaikos and RS in same week made him think he had to break up and rebuild that side. He was super decisive like that. Ball had been shattered after the Mexico World Cup and not so good that season...... IIRC first half of 1971-72 showed relatively few signs of us recapturing excellence of 1970. Unfortunately his heart attack ruined the rebuild idea.
Still broke my heart he sold Ball, it was a terrible mistake he was never able to rectify. Was an ace manager though, truly an Everton great.

I think Bally took over the captaincy in the championship year when Labone was injured towards the end of that season,then took over full time the next term,apparently he wasn't a popular figure as skipper possibly cos his standards were so high and he expected others to attain the same levels,my old fella always reckoned the day we sold him was the day we stopped being a massive club.

 

[roy vernon]

The most deadly transfer market dealer of his day. When he signed Alex (Chico) Scott, the national news papers had already ran with the headline 'Scott signs for Spurs' bit of a shock for them that Chico was actually at Bellfield having his picture taken with the Cat for the Echo.

He had his faults, the Cat, and I will never quite forgive him for selling Bally, but, he gave us the best club side ever to play in England in my opinion, oh what a joy it was to watch the Blues from 68-70. Unfortunately it was all over too quickly.

 

[Chang Elephant]

Nice article about him: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/nov/29/everton-harry-catterick-forgotten-great-manager

"I remember Harry Catterick and I did not realise he had been forgotten. He won two league titles in 12 years. Everton played good football. I was at university in the 1970s and shared a flat with a Liverpudlian who supported Everton. The only people that seemed to support Everton in those day were people from Liverpool. Until Ferguson arrived in 1986, Everton had won more league titles than Manchester United. However, Everton have never been very good at marketing their club or creating myths about their former players and managers. As a result, they have never really grown. That Harry Catterick has been forgotten is probably not surprising."

This from a neutral. Spot on and makes me want to volley kenwright and all other small club apologists in the gonads.

 

[AndyC]

One of the reasons we were never the media darlings is that the Catt preferred not to engage with the press, and was not overly in favour of TV cameras at games either. Contrast his media dealings with those of his counterpart across the park back then and it's not too hard to see why they got and still get massive more media coverage than we do.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

The most deadly transfer market dealer of his day. When he signed Alex (Chico) Scott, the national news papers had already ran with the headline 'Scott signs for Spurs' bit of a shock for them that Chico was actually at Bellfield having his picture taken with the Cat for the Echo.

He had his faults, the Cat, and I will never quite forgive him for selling Bally, but, he gave us the best club side ever to play in England in my opinion, oh what a joy it was to watch the Blues from 68-70. Unfortunately it was all over too quickly.

I heard he jumped the train at Crewe and spent the rest of the journey down to London convincing Scott to join us roy

 

[McMagic]

52 years ago my mate and I got left behind by our coach that took us to hillsborough for a league match with wednesday the year we won the league, after trying to get on other coaches..... no luck, we tried to be really cheeky, we went back to hillsborough to the Everton coach
just leaving, Mr. Catterick as we called him was the last to board the coach, we asked for a lift and explained that our bus had already left.
He looked long and hard at us, then said "get on the back seat and I don't want a peep out of you". For the next couple of hours my mate and I
breathed the same air as Alexander Young and Royston Vernon, I sat next to Mick Meagan all the way home, a gentleman.
I heard Ball, Kendal and Harvey say that Harry was a frightening man, other players and people that knew him said he was dour. I say "Speak as you find".

 

[Furey1878]

"I remember Harry Catterick and I did not realise he had been forgotten. He won two league titles in 12 years. Everton played good football. I was at university in the 1970s and shared a flat with a Liverpudlian who supported Everton. The only people that seemed to support Everton in those day were people from Liverpool. Until Ferguson arrived in 1986, Everton had won more league titles than Manchester United. However, Everton have never been very good at marketing their club or creating myths about their former players and managers. As a result, they have never really grown. That Harry Catterick has been forgotten is probably not surprising."

This from a neutral. Spot on and makes me want to volley kenwright and all other small club apologists in the gonads.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

 

[allezlesbleus]

I think Bally took over the captaincy in the championship year when Labone was injured towards the end of that season,then took over full time the next term,apparently he wasn't a popular figure as skipper possibly cos his standards were so high and he expected others to attain the same levels,my old fella always reckoned the day we sold him was the day we stopped being a massive club.

Exactly right. Saw him absolutely berate Tommy wright at GP, was well beyond a rollicking gee up. Genius who could not come to terms with lesser mortals.
You dad is partly right but in truth if Catt had stayed well and built a 4th excellent team who knows. But the main stand has a lot to answer for imo, then Moores' family not being into us as much as he was. Lots of factors at play imo during the 70s power shift.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Exactly right. Saw him absolutely berate Tommy wright at GP, was well beyond a rollicking gee up. Genius who could not come to terms with lesser mortals.
You dad is partly right but in truth if Catt had stayed well and built a 4th excellent team who knows. But the main stand has a lot to answer for imo, then Moores' family not being into us as much as he was. Lots of factors at play imo during the 70s power shift.

Yep I remember hearing for an extra £100,000,(yep £100,000!!)the Main Stand could have been cantilever,hence no posts/obstructed views,very short sighted of the board and remember we were Champions at the time.

 

[allezlesbleus]

Yep I remember hearing for an extra £100,000,(yep £100,000!!)the Main Stand could have been cantilever,hence no posts/obstructed views,very short sighted of the board and remember we were Champions at the time.

Sigh if that is true. Not quite champions at planning time though iirc. Always remember my dad fuming at the posts. Old Trafford was automatically going to push ahead of us because no obstructed views. Can't offer an opinion on the technicalities because I think they had less space to play with than OT but it seemed an design error/potential problem even at the time, let alone with the benefit of hindsight. Mind you if ever you stand on the pitch its sheer height is part of what makes GP intimidating.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Sigh if that is true. Not quite champions at planning time though iirc. Always remember my dad fuming at the posts. Old Trafford was automatically going to push ahead of us because no obstructed views. Can't offer an opinion on the technicalities because I think they had less space to play with than OT but it seemed an design error/potential problem even at the time, let alone with the benefit of hindsight. Mind you if ever you stand on the pitch its sheer height is part of what makes GP intimidating.

yep,you're right allez 1969 they started building it,my old man got moved as his season ticket was up by the church,which is where mine is now,talk about going full circle eh?

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Sigh if that is true. Not quite champions at planning time though iirc. Always remember my dad fuming at the posts. Old Trafford was automatically going to push ahead of us because no obstructed views. Can't offer an opinion on the technicalities because I think they had less space to play with than OT but it seemed an design error/potential problem even at the time, let alone with the benefit of hindsight. Mind you if ever you stand on the pitch its sheer height is part of what makes GP intimidating.

yep,you're right allez 1969 they started building it,my old man got moved as his season ticket was up by the church,which is where mine is now,talk about going full circle eh?

 

[peteblue]

The most deadly transfer market dealer of his day. When he signed Alex (Chico) Scott, the national news papers had already ran with the headline 'Scott signs for Spurs' bit of a shock for them that Chico was actually at Bellfield having his picture taken with the Cat for the Echo.

He had his faults, the Cat, and I will never quite forgive him for selling Bally, but, he gave us the best club side ever to play in England in my opinion, oh what a joy it was to watch the Blues from 68-70. Unfortunately it was all over too quickly.

It was a beautiful team.........

 

[allezlesbleus]

yep,you're right allez 1969 they started building it,my old man got moved as his season ticket was up by the church,which is where mine is now,talk about going full circle eh?

Ha ha. We got moved to the park end. Didn't really like it. I made some lad laughlast week going into GT2 where I am now by pointing out I am a tiny dot above jim pearson's shoulder in the photo above the turnstiles when we finally got moved back to the new main stand.

 

[Joey66]

Catt had lots of money to spend though? Mersey millionaires. Possibly why he gets overlooked among the greats. HK did it on a shoestring

He had the money, but fetched many fantastic youngsters through - Labone Capt - Harvey -Royle - Hurst - Whittle -Kenyon - Wright - Husband - Hurst and Husband were bought in as talented youngsters the rest were local lads - all of them were main players for the 1969/70 title team!

 

[Joey66]

Yep I remember hearing for an extra £100,000,(yep £100,000!!)the Main Stand could have been cantilever,hence no posts/obstructed views,very short sighted of the board and remember we were Champions at the time.

Just read The Catts autobiography - his health started to decline, and EFC helped him to stay on - surprised to hear that when we won the championship title in 1969/70 Don Revie was voted Manager of the year and won nothing - and Shanks pushed for him to be put into the hall of fame of managers!