2019/20 Gylfi Sigurdsson

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Tubey said:
You are though.

The reason Sigurdsson is crap is nothing to do with Gana leaving - he was crap when Gana was here too.
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He wasn't crap though, was he. He scored 15 goals last season and provided 8 assists.

Was he involved enough? No. But at least when he was getting involved stuff was happening.

Now, he's just crap and has no legs around him to enable him to get up the pitch.

So no, I'm not making excuses. He's hiding and we're screwed if we stick with him in that role or even in a key role now.

Unfortunately, our current other options are Delph - who has been so disappointing yet seems to be escaping criticism from some purely as he's a newish signing - and Davies.
 
BlueToff said:
He wasn't crap though, was he. He scored 15 goals last season and provided 8 assists.

Was he involved enough? No. But at least when he was getting involved stuff was happening.

Now, he's just crap and has no legs around him to enable him to get up the pitch.

So no, I'm not making excuses. He's hiding and we're screwed if we stick with him in that role or even in a key role now.
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He was crap. He scored a goal in the midst of a performance where he'd hide for 89 minutes of every game. All that has changed is that his random goals out of nowhere have gone.

He was and is crap. I've been proven right on it and you've been shown to be wrong, so you're scrounging round for reasons instead of simply acknowledging the obvious - and that is you misjudged the quality of a footballer.
 

was decent at Swansea and with Iceland cos theres no pressure on those teams to actually do anything, goes somewhere where theres expectation and the mental midget cant handle it.
guaranteed send him somewhere like Norwich or Bournemouth and he'll be flying again.
 
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mikeh72 said:
They’d be very naive to buy a player based on numbers on a spreadsheet, as we found out at a very expensive cost.
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It boggles my mind, it really does. I liked Siggy when he was at Swansea but I've always been cynical about the increase of using bare numbers to compare players that seems to have gone into overdrive over the last 5 years, and even with Ricky the loon appearing on all platforms to bang on about him 'outperforming De Bruyne' or whatever the hell Sigurdsson's stats in the 15/16 season suggest, I've always thought that midtable was his level.

It's like Stoke fans getting annoyed at the RS saying Shaqiri was Stoke's best player in their relegation season because he had the most goals and assists. What those stats fail to mention is the amount of consolation goals that were involved in those numbers, and the fact that very often the other 89 minutes were filled with absolute uselessness. Sounds familiar doesn't it.

The fact is that we've not been a good team since Sigurdsson joined, apart from a handful of matches here and there. Granted there is a whole heap of other dross that it could also be attributed to but there comes a point when you hear 'don't single him out, everyone was bad' enough times that you think he's doing nowhere near enough to try and change things. There's a video on Twitter from Sunday of him standing in the middle of the park ordering our defender to pass it to someone else, while he positions himself close to a Liverpool midfielder and thus makes himself an unattractive target for the pass. It's all well and good if you magically appear for a pass when all you have to do is flick it into a gap in the defence for a great chance but if you're 2-0 down partly because you haven't started any attacks because you've been hiding then what good is it? That's probably harsh but that's how it comes across - he only bothers to get involved when he spots that he can immediately set up a chance. That's brilliant when we're playing well but ineffective beyond belief when we're struggling.

He sometimes produces good, even very good numbers considering the fact he passes the ball about once every 5 minutes despite supposedly being a midfielder, but it's not insane to imagine that someone a lot more mobile, or getting on the ball a huge amount more and keeping things ticking, would have made us a better team.
 

Tubey said:
He was crap. He scored a goal in the midst of a performance where he'd hide for 89 minutes of every game. All that has changed is that his random goals out of nowhere have gone.
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You mean like Lukaku use to? Or Richarlison did at City last month?
 

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