Gestures for the the Queen before West Ham game

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So, to summarise the past few pages:
Anyone that disagrees with the ridiculous, North Korean style reaction to a very old, privileged woman's death is childish, whilst all the royalists are really, really sensible and grown-up.
We MUST respect their views, but ours are to be dismissed. Woe betide anyone that disagrees with the "establishment lovers" views.

Not at all. I havnt dismissed anyones view, what I have challenged is the assumption that everyone who disagrees with their point of view is brainwashed. That is childish.
 

and yet you have zero respect and tolerance for those who oppose the monarchy...sums up the whole royalist brainwashing.

It's fine to hold anti-monarchy views, but those who do should still be able to respect a minutes silence on behalf of people who think otherwise.

Away from Everton they can stage protests and campaign for a republic etc. as much as they like without tarnishing the reputation of the club.
 
So, to summarise the past few pages:
Anyone that disagrees with the ridiculous, North Korean style reaction to a very old, privileged woman's death is childish, whilst all the royalists are really, really sensible and grown-up.
We MUST respect their views, but ours are to be dismissed. Woe betide anyone that disagrees with the "establishment lovers" views.

Its the vile comments that are out of order, like being happy she dead. Everyone can have their opinion but do it with class not crass insults.
 

No, I do. Respect his view that is. And I dont seeth at his different opinion. Unlike him, who believes he is somehow morally or intellectually superior to those that dont share his view.

Not sure who, exactly, has been brainwashed.
Brainwashed , Bootlickers ,Serfs seem to be the go to words.
Them words will be highly offensive to some people.

I fully agree the blanket coverage has been over the top, but fortunately we live in a society where we have a choice.
Maybe some wanted to see Holly & Phil or Loose women , each to their own.

No one has been FORCED into doing anything , again its your choice & I for one an thankful we have that choice.
 

And you rather have the likes of Boris being the head of state.
The problem with having a constitutional monarch as head of state is that they are helpless to prevent abuse of power.
This was amply illustrated when Johnson deliberately and illegally twisted the rules and the Queen as head of state could not prevent it without breaking the protocols that surround a constitutional monarch.
Those who have power over our lives should be answerable and that requires that they should be elected into place and limited in duration.
This also goes for the House of Lords which like the monarchy should be abolished once again. This time for good.
 
Is he though?


Brainwashed , Bootlickers ,Serfs seem to be the go to words.
Them words will be highly offensive to some people.

I fully agree the blanket coverage has been over the top, but fortunately we live in a society where we have a choice.
Maybe some wanted to see Holly & Phil or Loose women , each to their own.

No one has been FORCED into doing anything , again its your choice & I for one an thankful we have that choice.



Having a monarchy is a goofy waste of tax money and belongs to the past. Id love it if we got rid of the Norwegian ones when the current king dies, utters wasters with accessories worth more than most people make in a month.

Did you see all the world leaders turn up today ?


That how important the Royal Family is to the UK?@
 

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