Geoff Cameron

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Seen this guy play - he's really slow. Considering what we have at CB already I'd bet the entire contents of my scrotum he won't be coming here.

Er, what? He's not slow. Agree with pfim.

Needs to work on his heading abilities yes, but slow? No.
 

He's the starting CB for the Houston Dynamo. He is also currently 2nd in line for a CB position on the US national team though he's just cracked the team. He has been rumored via several websites to have EPL and German teams interested in him, so he is ready to make the leap to bigger and better.

He is known for his good positioning on defense, but better than that, he is very good with the ball at his feet. He tries to be creative coming out of the back - and often succeeds. He is also a decent 1 v 1 defender. Not the fastest is one of his negatives, and doesn't score much on headers I believe, but TX Bill could tell you more on that.

He's good. Again, I'm not quite sure our scouting will lead to anything, and I don't think he'd come because he'd want to start. Plus we have this guy named Shane Duffy.

But his distribution skills I'd say are better than Distin or Jagielka's (Heitinga I think has decent skills here, Cameron may be slightly more creative, don't watch him enough to be sure). However, all three have been defending in EPL games consistently of course, so they are better there than Cameron until he can prove it.


Thanks Kay, I think because of his distinctly average sounding name he is being made fun of, looks like he has potential though, is that Clint Dempsey next to him?
 
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He's the starting CB for the Houston Dynamo. He is also currently 2nd in line for a CB position on the US national team though he's just cracked the team. He has been rumored via several websites to have EPL and German teams interested in him, so he is ready to make the leap to bigger and better.

He is known for his good positioning on defense, but better than that, he is very good with the ball at his feet. He tries to be creative coming out of the back - and often succeeds. He is also a decent 1 v 1 defender. Not the fastest is one of his negatives, and doesn't score much on headers I believe, but TX Bill could tell you more on that.

He's good. Again, I'm not quite sure our scouting will lead to anything, and I don't think he'd come because he'd want to start. Plus we have this guy named Shane Duffy.

But his distribution skills I'd say are better than Distin or Jagielka's (Heitinga I think has decent skills here, Cameron may be slightly more creative, don't watch him enough to be sure). However, all three have been defending in EPL games consistently of course, so they are better there than Cameron until he can prove it.[/QUOTE=Kay20;1285172]
I live in Houston and I'm a huge dynamo supporter. Virtually none of the above is true. Though his feet are excellent and his distribution is very good. His positioning is poor as he recently switched to Cb from central midfield where he played mostly as an attacking midfielder, some holding, and ocassionaly wide on the right. He is also fast and covers a ton of ground with his long strides. He is very good in the air and at almost 6'4 is an imposing figure in both boxes. He is especially good scoring with near post flick ons. His passing range is excellent and he has passes in his toolbox that would make andrea pirlo blush (ok that maybe a little much but he does have the most accurate outside of the boot crosses I have seen). At 26 he is a little old for a guy only just breaking in to the national team but U.S. managers rarely call in guys that don't play in Europe (or Mexico) so the fact that hes had a handfull of caps pres European transfer is a good sign. Also the dynamo are the team that produced stuart holden who has been excellent at Bolton when healthy and was able to come into the first team right away. You could probably get him for between 2-3 million pounds ( I don't have one of those pound signs on my American keyboard). He would be a nice replacement for Distin who is probably on his last legs( although I said that when they bought him from Pompey) or Jags who seems to always have transfer rumors circling him. Also Geoff is much more talented than Shane Duffy.
 

He's the starting CB for the Houston Dynamo. He is also currently 2nd in line for a CB position on the US national team though he's just cracked the team. He has been rumored via several websites to have EPL and German teams interested in him, so he is ready to make the leap to bigger and better.

He is known for his good positioning on defense, but better than that, he is very good with the ball at his feet. He tries to be creative coming out of the back - and often succeeds. He is also a decent 1 v 1 defender. Not the fastest is one of his negatives, and doesn't score much on headers I believe, but TX Bill could tell you more on that.

He's good. Again, I'm not quite sure our scouting will lead to anything, and I don't think he'd come because he'd want to start. Plus we have this guy named Shane Duffy.

But his distribution skills I'd say are better than Distin or Jagielka's (Heitinga I think has decent skills here, Cameron may be slightly more creative, don't watch him enough to be sure). However, all three have been defending in EPL games consistently of course, so they are better there than Cameron until he can prove it.[/QUOT
I live in Houston and I'm a huge dynamo supporter. Virtually none of the above is true. Though his feet are excellent and his distribution is very good. His positioning is poor as he recently switched to Cb from central midfield where he played mostly as an attacking midfielder, some holding, and ocassionaly wide on the right. He is also fast and covers a ton of ground with his long strides. He is very good in the air and at almost 6'4 is an imposing figure in both boxes. He is especially good scoring with near post flick ons. His passing range is excellent and he has passes in his toolbox that would make andrea pirlo blush (ok that maybe a little much but he does have the most accurate outside of the boot crosses I have seen). At 26 he is a little old for a guy only just breaking in to the national team but U.S. managers rarely call in guys that don't play in Europe (or Mexico) so the fact that hes had a handfull of caps pres European transfer is a good sign. Also the dynamo are the team that produced stuart holden who has been excellent at Bolton when healthy and was able to come into the first team right away. You could probably get him for between 2-3 million pounds ( I don't have one of those pound signs on my American keyboard). He would be a nice replacement for Distin who is probably on his last legs( although I said that when they bought him from Pompey) or Jags who seems to always have transfer rumors circling him. Also Geoff is much more talented than Shane Duffy.
You his Dad or his agent then?
 
You his Dad or his agent then?

I wish I was either one. Preferably both but alas I am neither. Just a fan of soccer. My point is just that Kay got her scouting report off of the Fifa 10 while I got mine from fifa 12( or ive seen him play a hundred times, I forget which). Anyhow deplorably defensively Stoke are already in negotiations for him with the dynamo so it look like he will go there. Not sure the tofees were seriously considering him anyway. With their budget constrains they have to do their due diligence on anyone who is promising and can be had on the cheap though. Also he may be difficult to secure a work permit for. He has only 5 or 6 caps and no Armenian grandfather or anything like that.
 
On the right wing?

Early in his career he would play on the right wing although seldomly. He primarily played as either an attacking mid or as a holding midfielder. In 2009 he played as a Cb due to injures and was voted mls best 11 at Cb that season but he switched back to midfield until midway through 2011. He has been at centre half ever since although when the dynamo are down a goal late in games instead of making an attacking sub Cameron is usually pushed up in the attack and they play 3 in the back. Hes a really versatile player but needs work on the finer points of defence. He still plays Cb like a midfielder, and he gambles at times by trying to step underneath runs when he thinks the ball will be played to the feet. When hes right he looks brilliant but when the ball gets played over the top he looks like an idiot. Fortunately he has very good pace for a centre half and often he recovers.
 

I live in Houston and I'm a huge dynamo supporter. Virtually none of the above is true. Though his feet are excellent and his distribution is very good. His positioning is poor as he recently switched to Cb from central midfield where he played mostly as an attacking midfielder, some holding, and ocassionaly wide on the right. He is also fast and covers a ton of ground with his long strides. He is very good in the air and at almost 6'4 is an imposing figure in both boxes. He is especially good scoring with near post flick ons. His passing range is excellent and he has passes in his toolbox that would make andrea pirlo blush (ok that maybe a little much but he does have the most accurate outside of the boot crosses I have seen). At 26 he is a little old for a guy only just breaking in to the national team but U.S. managers rarely call in guys that don't play in Europe (or Mexico) so the fact that hes had a handfull of caps pres European transfer is a good sign. Also the dynamo are the team that produced stuart holden who has been excellent at Bolton when healthy and was able to come into the first team right away. You could probably get him for between 2-3 million pounds ( I don't have one of those pound signs on my American keyboard). He would be a nice replacement for Distin who is probably on his last legs( although I said that when they bought him from Pompey) or Jags who seems to always have transfer rumors circling him. Also Geoff is much more talented than Shane Duffy.

Er. You just agreed with most of what I said - I was trying to make a point about his distribution skills and passing ability. And I disagree on him being fast. Yes, he has long strides, but he isn't pacey like Distin. I think his positioning isn't that bad, but you watch more games than I do. And his heading isn't that great - which was demonstrated in games this past week.
 
Thanks Kay, I think because of his distinctly average sounding name he is being made fun of, looks like he has potential though, is that Clint Dempsey next to him?

Yes. That is one hilarious photo.
 
Long strides make him look slow but he is fast. Faster than Distin is now but probably not as fast as Distin was 2 or 3 yrs ago. Anyhow I point out what was correct right off the bat but the slow and good positioning/ poor heading are ultra wrong plain and simple. You cant scout a player off of 2 2 or 3 viewings. Its just not possible. Ive seen every pro game he has played ever. Well league games at least. Not your fault you've only seen him a few times. Just trying to help.
 
I'm a new guy (just posted in New Signings page) who also happens to be a Dynamo fan, similar to TX Bill. Just wanted to give my opinion.

Geoff Cameron has been hurt by the manager (Dom Kinnear) shifting him around a bit too much, and I feel that if he would have been at CB for his entire career he would've already been on the national team a year or two ago. Unfortunately he just found his niche last year and got his first call-up this year. Although he only has a few caps, he is widely-regarded as the next in line for the CB job, he may even be considered the starter in a few months, as Carlos Bocanegra and Oguchi Oneywu are going down hill. As the for the player himself, he has great passing ability and vision and is miles more creative than Distin or Jagielka. However some of his runs, could leave the other CB a bit exposed, but Moyes can fix that. He can pass out of pressure, and is great in the air. Good speed and strength, but would probably need a few months to adjust his playing style. Aggressive, hardworking, and intense all describe him. Overall, a good player, who could possibly take over for Distin in a few years with the right attitude. Though I could be overrating him because I'm a Dynamo supporter.

Well said.

A bit misleading though. He has been called into camp but injuries/depth (his first few camps he was behind in from Bocanegra, Demerit, and Onyewu in their primes) kept him out of the lineups. He's a good player though who can start attacks. I personally don't see Everton as a good fit for him.

He'd be a fantastic fit after Distin has moved on.

Have only seen him play a few times, but he is being touted about as the long term solution to the USA's CB role currently occupied by aging players.

Unfortunately, I think the Dynamo would want a decent fee for their "future star". He is highly untested at the highes level as his caps for the US have come against the mighty Scotland, Venezuela and El Salvador, so he may not be worth the risk to us.

He would be at the very most, a low low risk to us or any other midtier Premier club for that matter.


I think they'll accept around 2 or 3 million. Tim Ream went from New York to Bolton for 2.5 million. Of course they are a bit different, as Ream is younger at 24, but Cameron is much more premier-league ready.

Correct again.

Long strides make him look slow but he is fast. Faster than Distin is now but probably not as fast as Distin was 2 or 3 yrs ago. Anyhow I point out what was correct right off the bat but the slow and good positioning/ poor heading are ultra wrong plain and simple. You cant scout a player off of 2 2 or 3 viewings. Its just not possible. Ive seen every pro game he has played ever. Well league games at least. Not your fault you've only seen him a few times. Just trying to help.

Sorry I hadn't seen this thread till now. Out of town all last week.

I'll save a lot of you the time and trouble. This is coming from someone who watches Everton EVERY weekend and the Houston Dynamo EVERY weekend.

Geoff Cameron would easily, and I do mean EASILY make the grade at Everton.

Speed, vision. strength, you name it. Now he can still improve upon all of these and he's still learning many of the nuances of defending but I've said that I think there is a very real chance that he'll be a starter for the USA in 2014.

He'll be a great acquisition for Stoke if they can swing it.

I really can't add to what ToffeesandDynamo said above.

But if Everton were to swing a deal for him, he'd help anchor our backline for the next 6 to 7 years.
 
A pretty reliable source is reporting that Stoke have put a bid in for him. Not sure why Stoke would want to buy anyone who passes the ball on the ground.

He's not a midfielder anymore, so he will fit into their 8-0-2 formation perfectly.
 

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