No, it was exactly the same under Rafael. He should never of been appointed. Anyone that has chosen to go and manage in China to me has basically retired. We gave him a way back in, he had about 20 games and then got a massive payout. He must of thought ‘those idiots’. Laughed all the way to the bank and set his retirement up for life.
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JohnJq
Player Valuation: £5m
Let's see how he does at West Ham soon enough.
windymiller
Player Valuation: £70m
Yeah, and if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump his arse when he jumped. Anyone who understands anything about this club knew Benitez would never be accepted by the fanbase so he should never have been appointed. But Moshiri doesn't GAF about the fanbase and Egil is Norwegian, I'm not sure what your excuse is, mind.
What meeting?
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
This goes beyond the manager. Voluble sections of our fanbase have this irrational sense of entitlement that Everton play good football - but Everton haven't played consistently good football for 35 years now. Everton have been largely rubbish since we last won the league. I am all for the style we evinced in the 1980s. Joe Royle had us playing some very good stuff in 1995/96. Roberto Martinez had us playing freewheeling stuff in 2013/14. Neither could sustain it. Other than that, we've been, at our best, functional and effective, at our worst, abysmally ineffective.
The reason this affectation matters is that it is corrosive. It infects managerial appointment decisions. So we end up choosing managers who "aspire" to playing a certain way but who are all fur coat and no knickers. Martinez, Silva, and Lampard were all appointed in one way or the other because of their purported "style". Effectiveness was secondary. Allardyce was hugely effective in his short stint - we were safe from relegation in a month after the spiralling nightmare of late-era Koeman and David Unsworth getting hockeyed at Southampton. But his "style" was offensive to many (off-field as much as on). Benitez never had a chance. The leadership of the club should have recognised he would never have been given a chance, rightly or wrongly, and gone elsewhere.
So the lessons we need to learn are we need a manager who plays an effective brand of football, i.e., gets the best out of his players, and doesn't offend the fanbase in his - and his team's - basic comportment. Managers last quite a while at Everton - slow, inert, decrepit Everton - if they have a dignified presence (Walter Smith is a classic example). Add a bit of effectiveness to that basic dignity and we should be closer to appointing somebody who might stand a chance.
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
He never stood a chance. He was chased out. I don't care what he said in the past or who he managed. He had to go in the end - his results demanded that (though somehow those criteria don't apply to nine-lives Lampard), but he was never given a chance by a voluble section of the fanbase. And Allardyce was punted too for the crime of being, basically, a bit Brexity on and off the pitch. An in-tune leadership of the club would have avoided such appointments because they could never work in the real, dysfunctional world that is Everton.
Since that first post where I said he should be gone with less than 6 points from the next 4 we’ve managed 5 points from the following 9 (NINE) games.
Fed up of this club and not being able to see the absolute obvious in front of them.
Target attacking players that infamously struggle to score goals, defenders who were either deemed not good enough for Wolves / struggled to get into the Rangers side / someone part of a side who was relegated ahead of the worst Everton side I’d ever seen (until this season).
These people making these decisions that are absolutely ROTTING this football club are paid an absolute fortune. If we’re ran terribly off the pitch, we’ll more than likely perform terribly on it.
The most obvious and quickest bit of hope we can gather right now would be to replace Lampard with any actual competent manager but apparently they seem unable to tell him to sling his hook.
I have a horrible feeling that the board are going to spitefully keep him in charge, despite the fact he is evidently taking us down
everton1953
Player Valuation: £40m
Benítez was an appalling appointment.End of.
steven
Player Valuation: £35m
Still eating the biscuits atm. Kenwright just called for some extra custard creams - quick cuppa then before agenda point 1 which I believe is ‘pineapple on pizza?’
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
@Jimishorts this is what you want is it?
Let’s have a guess I think the meeting will take place today. Once the decision is made, the solicitor has to draft the document. The account department has to reserve the costs for dismissing them (FL and his team) and need the green light from the bank. I guess it will be Tuesday for the announcement. I can be wrong. I just want to get him gone asap.
PS Claiming the be a victim? Take a look at the stuff you posted.
Defenders are slow - midfield are weak and forwards are isolated.
Hopeless tactics - but team are never going to be good enough.
We can't afford to rebuild completely - though that is what is needed but as a minimum we need 2 absolutely dominant middle of midfielders to hold this shower together.
They must be out there - couple of warhorses in the mould of Reid and Brace.
Hopeless tactics - but team are never going to be good enough.
We can't afford to rebuild completely - though that is what is needed but as a minimum we need 2 absolutely dominant middle of midfielders to hold this shower together.
They must be out there - couple of warhorses in the mould of Reid and Brace.
Why is he still here?
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
HouldingMania
Player Valuation: £500k
“When I look at the squad I am happy. Now it’s time to get our heads down and work.”
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“People are drawn to the striker situation,” he added. “Dominic Calvert-Lewin feels like a new signing as well. When I and we as a club look at how can we improve the team, to isolate and just look at the striker wasn’t the way to look at it. It was how we can strengthen throughout. We have to look at the collective. We have Calvert-Lewin – an England striker – and Neal Maupay, who is proven in the Premier League.”
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The nice bloke changed his mind obviously.
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“People are drawn to the striker situation,” he added. “Dominic Calvert-Lewin feels like a new signing as well. When I and we as a club look at how can we improve the team, to isolate and just look at the striker wasn’t the way to look at it. It was how we can strengthen throughout. We have to look at the collective. We have Calvert-Lewin – an England striker – and Neal Maupay, who is proven in the Premier League.”
Everton: Lampard - 'I'm happy, now it's time to work'
Everton: Lampard - 'I'm happy, now it's time to work'
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The nice bloke changed his mind obviously.
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