Football is corrupt.

[RufusCat]

How are man city still allowed operate with 115 charges still going on????
Its genuinely making me sick at this stage. I mean if that was us we'd be slaughtered at this stage..do they just have better n more expensive lawyers thab everyone else??

The short answer is yes, they do.

 

[PhilM]

How are man city still allowed operate with 115 charges still going on????
Its genuinely making me sick at this stage. I mean if that was us we'd be slaughtered at this stage..do they just have better n more expensive lawyers thab everyone else??

Innocent until proven guilty, is a pretty engrained part of legal and regulatory systems. While it does feel awkward for neutrals, it is what it is.

The other aspect is the complexity of the case, which is why it's being dragged out for so long.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Let’s hope Andy Burnham comes out with similar if he takes over from Starmer.

Would love him to dig and dig and dig until he found Masters filthy dealings.

What like?I agree he dodgy btw

 

[Tipp blue]

…..I got permission before posting this previously but I knew a great Evertonian who was really popular on the after dinner circuit. Lovely man, sadly passed away now but he was big mates with Howard Kendall.

His grandson and my son have been close friends since they started school together. It must be close on 30 years ago and we were watching the kids playing cricket for Bootle and out of the blue he asked if I’d ever been to a ‘bent football match’. I said not as far as I know. He said he was in the Corporate area after the 4-4 Derby game and was told by somebody who should know that a few ‘Liverpool players were at it’.

I watched our goals back and a few are a bit iffy. Without warning, Dalglish resigned literally the next day or so after that night and the goalkeeper was subsequently involved in match fixing allegations.

I have absolutely no doubt my friend was told what he communicated to me but of course I don’t know if it was accurate. I do have my own thoughts.

Were you at Everton V Villarreal, A retired ref comes back for this game and then never referees again, That alone should have been enough for an inquiry, never mind his performance along with the whole "there cant be 5 teams from 1 country in the competition" narrative that was being spewed around, then Moyes accused UEFA of using hot balls to fix the draw and never got punished, Him being punished may have led to an investigation the whole thing was a farce.

Moyes - UEFA hot balls cost us

David Moyes believes there was a conspiracy against Everton when they qualified for the Champions League in 2005.

www.skysports.com

 

[Eggs]

Were you at Everton V Villarreal, A retired ref comes back for this game and then never referees again, That alone should have been enough for an inquiry, never mind his performance along with the whole "there cant be 5 teams from 1 country in the competition" narrative that was being spewed around, then Moyes accused UEFA of using hot balls to fix the draw and never got punished, Him being punished may have led to an investigation the whole thing was a farce.

Moyes - UEFA hot balls cost us

David Moyes believes there was a conspiracy against Everton when they qualified for the Champions League in 2005.

www.skysports.com

….definitely and he wouldn’t be the only referee I’d be suspicious of in the PL era.

 

[woodsyni]

With the amount of money in the PL, I honestly believe you'd be extremely naïve to believe there was no corruption. To what extent is debatable but to believe the game is 100% clean is unthinkable to me.

 

[Eggs]

With the amount of money in the PL, I honestly believe you'd be extremely naïve to believe there was no corruption. To what extent is debatable but to believe the game is 100% clean is unthinkable to me.

….the only doubt I have is that nobody has come out and exposed it. I’m convinced there’s a bias to some clubs and a bias against others but I don’t know if that’s subconscious rather than policy.

I remember Graham Poll saying the first game he reffed at OT was United against Everton and the Toffees had a 100% stonewall penalty at the Stretford End which he never gave. The Everton players were shouting at him as the game went, he still doesn’t know to this day why he didn’t give it.

The major one for me is Clattenburg. Known to have been wined and dined by Gerrard and Carragher, it can’t have been coincidence he officiated so many of their key matches. That game at Goodison where Gerrard wrapped his feet into Hibbert, Clattenburg gave the pen and got a yellow out but clearly changed it to red on instruction from Gerrard.

 

[woodsyni]

….the only doubt I have is that nobody has come out and exposed it. I’m convinced there’s a bias to some clubs and a bias against others but I don’t know if that’s subconscious rather than policy.

I remember Graham Poll saying the first game he reffed at OT was United against Everton and the Toffees had a 100% stonewall penalty at the Stretford End which he never gave. The Everton players were shouting at him as the game went, he still doesn’t know to this day why he didn’t give it.

The major one for me is Clattenburg. Known to have been wined and dined by Gerrard and Carragher, it can’t have been coincidence he officiated so many of their key matches. That game at Goodison where Gerrard wrapped his feet into Hibbert, Clattenburg gave the pen and got a yellow out but clearly changed it to red on instruction from Gerrard.

Still the game that makes me angriest. Even more than fecking Colina and that is saying something.

 

[Rita_Poon]

How are man city still allowed operate with 115 charges still going on????
Its genuinely making me sick at this stage. I mean if that was us we'd be slaughtered at this stage..do they just have better n more expensive lawyers thab everyone else??

When you see the city owner, his immediate right hand men are his personal assassination team. That he and they are allowed to travel, and even present their faces to the world media tells you all you need to know about international law, ethics, and just how much power the oil states hold over everyone else. No wonder abramovich has the legals pressuring the forced chelsea sale bank account.

Football is insignificant in the grander scheme.

 

[Sadken]

I was at an after dinner speech night, and the ref said that when pat nevin was brought down in the box at the kop end, f.a. cup tie, he said there was no way he was giving a pen at the kop end in the last minutes, his actuall words. Cant remember refs name.maybe midgley?

 

[DOMNOLAN]

I was at an after dinner speech night, and the ref said that when pat nevin was brought down in the box at the kop end, f.a. cup tie, he said there was no way he was giving a pen at the kop end in the last minutes, his actuall words. Cant remember refs name.maybe midgley?

Clattenburg said this as well im fairly sure??

 

[duncs pigeon]

Clattenburg said this as well im fairly sure??

He did after the derby at Goodison ' cant give a pen against Liverpool in the last minute'

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Let’s hope Andy Burnham comes out with similar if he takes over from Starmer.

Would love him to dig and dig and dig until he found Masters filthy dealings.

I really don’t think he’d need to dig far.

 

[TheBigIguana]

….the only doubt I have is that nobody has come out and exposed it. I’m convinced there’s a bias to some clubs and a bias against others but I don’t know if that’s subconscious rather than policy.

I remember Graham Poll saying the first game he reffed at OT was United against Everton and the Toffees had a 100% stonewall penalty at the Stretford End which he never gave. The Everton players were shouting at him as the game went, he still doesn’t know to this day why he didn’t give it.

The major one for me is Clattenburg. Known to have been wined and dined by Gerrard and Carragher, it can’t have been coincidence he officiated so many of their key matches. That game at Goodison where Gerrard wrapped his feet into Hibbert, Clattenburg gave the pen and got a yellow out but clearly changed it to red on instruction from Gerrard.

I've always thought that there's an element to refereeing in football where they expect better teams to be better and so they give them decisions in certain places that they just wouldn't for a lesser side. Something like a penalty where a talented player, say someone like Hazard, doesn't actually get fouled gets given because the referee has this bias that Hazard is really good and so he probably just did beat the player and get fouled. With how fast the game moves it is hard to ever be sure. So they guess a lot, and they guess on biases.

I don't really tend to see the game as being massively corrupt between the lines. Behind the scenes it is a mess I'm sure.