Feeling it yet?

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

well there seems to be a shed load of players that want out!!!!

so i ask you WHY!!!!!!

MONEY, WHAT WAS A GOOD DEAL 18 MONTHS AGO IS NOW LIKE A HANDFUL OF GROATS, THE FACT THAT IT IS BEYOND THE WORKING MANS WILDEST DREAMS IS IRRELEVANT TO THEM AS THEY ARE GREEDY. hAPPY TO SPEND THEIR 'CAREERS' AS RESERVES. LOOK AT SOMEONE LIKE S.W.P. BIG PAYDAYS, NOW DOESN'T NEED TO PERFORM AND IT APPEARS CAN NO LONGER PERFORM. THE MONEY HAS TAKEN AWAY THE HUNGER.... EXCEPT THE HUNGER FOR MORE OF IT.

 

[Matt Damon]

We care and are worried cos we are not changing anything and still not winning the problem is not getting managed.
No need for cheap shots about bleurts coming out of the woodwork,you need to take a real look at whats going on and you will see we are in deep trouble

I think you'll find the cheap shot was in the titled post of this thread lad.

I've taken a look at whats going on far greater than you and your "MOYES HANDLING OF YAKUBU IS A DISGRACE" posts.

Nonsense. Yakubu was talking to other clubs in the summer whilst under contract. Proper snide that.

 

[TX Bill]

big vic? yak? gosling did a runner!

If Yak wants out, I can't blame him. We're hurting for goals and the manager won't give him a run.

Don't know about Big Vic though.

 

[Tubey]

Anyway. Can't be doing with the post-match blerts coming on here going with the whole "Moyez out" lines. Blerts. They might have a case if Moyes had spent £millions every year but he hasn't been able to and has relied on all sorts of measures like loans, youth team and so on to get players in.

Not one person is denying what Moyes has done to brilliantly assemble a squad on a budget. The problem is he doesn't appear to know how to use it and hasn't for a good 12 months now. I'm not being a "snide" in observing that; just check our form.

Even I will say that, now it's January, we have to give Moyes until the end of the season. But if we're in the bottom half of the table after 38 games played, I honestly believe it's time to give a new man a try.

 

[RFUS]

How has Moyes caused friction? He's the manager. Appointed to run the team. If people won't do as he says then they are not obeying the hierarchy.

Major whole in your argument there lad.

You might want to have a think before you speak to me. Or put snidey threads on the forum directed at me too lad.


Just a thought for you.

This isn't directed at you -- this thread -- that's a bit arrogant. Clearly I've no beef with you, unless you're Steve Round in disguise.

But, you stand by Moyes more than anyone, so I namedropped you. Because when I want to hear the polar opposite to my opinion, I think of you.

Your stance interests me, that you blame the lack of finances at a time like this. Whilst I think it's a valid point, it's surely not an all-encompassing one? This same team -- without an on form striker, for example -- tore apart everyone in the second half of last season. Why are we not doing the same now?

 

[Matt Damon]

well there seems to be a shed load of players that want out!!!!

so i ask you WHY!!!!!!

Because they think they can get more money elsewhere etc. Others like Heitinga because (at Athletico Madrid) they sold him at a loss to get shut of him (sniding)

I hold my hands up and say I was wrong about Heitinga.

He's a PROPER snide.

 

[daz4matty]

Well it's obvious that we've been hampered by a lack of money, and that the manager's being saying that. LCAB's told me Moyes wanted to spend in the summer but couldn't.


Anyway. Can't be doing with the post-match blerts coming on here going with the whole "Moyez out" lines. Blerts. They might have a case if Moyes had spent £millions every year but he hasn't been able to and has relied on all sorts of measures like loans, youth team and so on to get players in.


Do think certain players (Heitinga, Pienaar, Anichebe, Yakubu) have alot to answer for - because all have caused problems in the camp with their looking to play elsewhere.

Needs sorting there I think. SNIDES OUT.


Also KENWRIGHT NEEDS TO GET MOYES SOME PROPER MONEY.

Why do you keep going on about blerts,what about the respect thing your not better than any other fan cos your taking cheap shots.
If you cant see with this squad we have 1 win in 10 games is dire you have to be on a wind up

 

[TX Bill]

I've been a staunch Moyes supporter.

He's been the best thing for this club in the past ten years.

Every week, it's getting harder and harder to defend his tactics, substitutions, etc.... I don't know where my breaking point is but when I hit it, I'm sure you all will get to see it firsthand.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Confidence in our system. Players know when you don't play with a recognized striker for a couple of games is all a confidence issue. Tactics are geared for losses away and draws at home. Absolutely no good at this rate. We have to find a spark. Were will it come from? Change of tactics dropping players who were previously untouchable or more rearranging of the squad.

It's going to be interesting to say the least. Survival is now in our minds. Any win will be a huge win.

 

[davek]

Well it's obvious that we've been hampered by a lack of money, and that the manager's being saying that. LCAB's told me Moyes wanted to spend in the summer but couldn't.


Anyway. Can't be doing with the post-match blerts coming on here going with the whole "Moyez out" lines. Blerts. They might have a case if Moyes had spent £millions every year but he hasn't been able to and has relied on all sorts of measures like loans, youth team and so on to get players in.


Do think certain players (Heitinga, Pienaar, Anichebe, Yakubu) have alot to answer for - because all have caused problems in the camp with their looking to play elsewhere.

Needs sorting there I think. SNIDES OUT.


KENWRIGHT OUT.

Agreed.

 

[Matt Damon]

This isn't directed at you -- this thread -- that's a bit arrogant. Clearly I've no beef with you, unless you're Steve Round in disguise.

But, you stand by Moyes more than anyone, so I namedropped you. Because when I want to hear the polar opposite to my opinion, I think of you.

Your stance interests me, that you blame the lack of finances at a time like this. Whilst I think it's a valid point, it's surely not an all-encompassing one? This same team -- without an on form striker, for example -- tore apart everyone in the second half of last season. Why are we not doing the same now?

It's about 99.999% of the cause. When Moyes realised what snidey players were doing with some proper money he would have got shut of one or two immediately.

Or he'd be in a better position to keep snidey players in their place as he'd have the threat of replacing them there available.

 

[Tubey]

I've been a staunch Moyes supporter.

He's been the best thing for this club in the past ten years.

Every week, it's getting harder and harder to defend his tactics, substitutions, etc.... I don't know where my breaking point is but when I hit it, I'm sure you all will get to see it firsthand.

Undoubtedly.

It's whether he's the best thing for the club for the next ten years which concerns me.

One thing I will say is this - the players aren't blameless today. Arteta was on his holidays - I only had time for Baines, Coleman and Cahill.

 

[TX Bill]

Undoubtedly.

It's whether he's the best thing for the club for the next ten years which concerns me.

One thing I will say is this - the players aren't blameless today. Arteta was on his holidays - I only had time for Baines, Coleman and Cahill.

Don't forget Distin. He and Baines have been our POY's so far.

 

[Still]

Undoubtedly.

It's whether he's the best thing for the club for the next ten years which concerns me.

One thing I will say is this - the players aren't blameless today. Arteta was on his holidays - I only had time for Baines, Coleman and Cahill.

Its been the same for a few weeks now. Baines was really trying to drag everyone along today, it was quite sad to watch.

 

[RFUS]

It's about 99.999% of the cause. When Moyes realised what snidey players were doing with some proper money he would have got shut of one or two immediately.

Or he'd be in a better position to keep snidey players in their place as he'd have the threat of replacing them there available.

I know you're good chums with LCAB, mate, but what gives you the right to determine who's a "snide" and who isn't?

It seems to me that you just toss that label around to cover up any holes in your argument.




I agree that some players are being little shits to us, but I'd like to see who exactly (a list, if you may be so kind), you think is a "snide". Because I'll tell you what, Moyes has made some bad decisions regarding players like Beckford, Bily (not enough time) and Arteta (too much time) -- and I wouldn't call any of them snides.