Farhad Moshiri

[Bob Elstone]

Listen to how utterly delusional that sounds, Zidane wouldn't give us the time of day, neither would Blanc. Conte and Mancini are two more examples, like Mourinho and Wenger (previous suggestions of yours) of comfort zoning, i.e managers from the same league, the only one of that list is Nagellsman that is gettable but even then it would be a seriously stupid amount to pay when we'd be paying off 4 other managers

Yeh Robinho would never sign for man city.

Pay the money and get one worldie in.

 

[RomanReigns]

Roy Keane is available

 

[dannyboy]

Not that we are comparable to city when they got their cash injection but they still had mark Hughes as manager then. The same mark Hughes who's been sacked twice in the same calendar year. They had a plan and implemented an organisational structure that allowed them to get the man they wanted, 8 years it's taken them to get to where they are. Marco silva is a good coach, him and brands have a plan you've just got to look at the players theyve brought in this season. We are in inconsistent but that's to be expected imo given the first 11 changes.

Digne
Zouma
Richarlison
Bernard
Andre gomes

Last season we lined up with:

Baines
Jagielka
Tosun
Davies
Schneiderlin

We are moving forward, it's clearly a work in progress and theres a lot of work to do to change the mentality of the squad but also the club as a whole. We've talked about competing for a long time now but not done it. Compare the talk coming out of our club vs the talk coming out from spurs who are competing now. Stop saying. Start doing.

The manager and his team need more time. I dont think we are good enough and understand the frustration but hes been here less than 6 months. We've gone from being antifootball last season to playing some genuinely good stuff at times this season. I do think we've been badly unlucky this season but you make your own luck. More time with the squad, a few more winners in the squad and we will be closer. The gap to the top 6 is huge. Remove Mourinho from the equation and the top 6 would be out of site by now, to everyone not just Everton. Yes we've invested and largely spunked money away but who hasn't in this league? The transfers this season have been spot on. Here's hoping 2019 is a better year for us but the signs are encouraging which is more than can be said for this time last year.

Transfers haven't been good enough. You want to threaten the top 6 then your transfers have to be so much better. We bought players good enough for the top 10 but we need so much more.

The manager needs more time but quite simply he needs better players.

 

[4737carlin]

Exactly.

Make Zidane, Emery, Mancini, Conte, Nagellsman, Blanc etc one of the worlds highest paid managers and we would be up there with the funds spent on players.

I actually hope the FA give us a points deduction for the Silva tapping up just to show him up for his sheer stupidity.

Thing is what I don't understand is why Moshiri only went for Silva and didn't try for others. I didn't believe this was the case and speculated before he came we might be after others, or at least speak to others, while there were people on here and social media saying it would only be Silva.
He went all in it seems on a manager who had nothing in his CV to say he was the right man, pure madness.
The Premier League is a big draw, we had money to spend, the top 6 are only going to take top 6 proven managers, meaning were a good option for a manager who wants to come to this league, but we wemt for a guy who has had two goes at the Premier League already and failed at them both.

 

[ART]

Roy Keane is available

Is that you Roy?

 

[EverBlue92]

Thing is what I don't understand is why Moshiri only went for Silva and didn't try for others. I didn't believe this was the case and speculated before he came we might be after others, or at least speak to others, while there were people on here and social media saying it would only be Silva.
He went all in it seems on a manager who had nothing in his CV to say he was the right man, pure madness.
The Premier League is a big draw, we had money to spend, the top 6 are only going to take top 6 proven managers, meaning were a good option for a manager who wants to come to this league, but we wemt for a guy who has had two goes at the Premier League already and failed at them both.

The problem is our fanbase make it so easy for the ownership to be lazy in recruitment. Remember the shouts for Unsworth to be given the permanent manager job?

I've already given people examples of managers who are managing at clubs beneath them:

Benitez at Newcastle
Hassanhuttl at Southampton
Biesla at Leeds

Thats just english clubs I know I bet their are many more examples throughout europe.

People are seriously telling me that their was no better manager out there other than Silva? Its laughable. People underestimate how big a lure we are with our wages and transfer spend outside of the elite very few clubs can outspend us look at Lyon and Mina.

 

[Steve Wigan]

Not that we are comparable to city when they got their cash injection but they still had mark Hughes as manager then. The same mark Hughes who's been sacked twice in the same calendar year. They had a plan and implemented an organisational structure that allowed them to get the man they wanted, 8 years it's taken them to get to where they are. Marco silva is a good coach, him and brands have a plan you've just got to look at the players theyve brought in this season. We are in inconsistent but that's to be expected imo given the first 11 changes.

Digne
Zouma
Richarlison
Bernard
Andre gomes

Last season we lined up with:

Baines
Jagielka
Tosun
Davies
Schneiderlin

We are moving forward, it's clearly a work in progress and theres a lot of work to do to change the mentality of the squad but also the club as a whole. We've talked about competing for a long time now but not done it. Compare the talk coming out of our club vs the talk coming out from spurs who are competing now. Stop saying. Start doing.

The manager and his team need more time. I dont think we are good enough and understand the frustration but hes been here less than 6 months. We've gone from being antifootball last season to playing some genuinely good stuff at times this season. I do think we've been badly unlucky this season but you make your own luck. More time with the squad, a few more winners in the squad and we will be closer. The gap to the top 6 is huge. Remove Mourinho from the equation and the top 6 would be out of site by now, to everyone not just Everton. Yes we've invested and largely spunked money away but who hasn't in this league? The transfers this season have been spot on. Here's hoping 2019 is a better year for us but the signs are encouraging which is more than can be said for this time last year.

A bit of sense at last. Unfortunately sense goes out of the window were impatient football supporters are concerned and its rare that a manager ever gets the time to complete a project. It is important that we give Silva and Brands time to build,at least for next season. We need to get out of the rut of changing managers,and therefore styles, so much,we will not achieve anything if we do that. Great teams are not built in a flash, they take time,and that time includes the making of mistakes.One thing there is under Moshiri and this management team is the desire and will to succeed,and they will have a better chance of achieving if they have the support of Evertonians. The future off the field is secure, and we are acquiring some players who in my eyes fit the Everton mold...Bernard is a typical Everton player for example...high on technical ability and flair, and with a terrific work rate.I'm sure that Silva and Brands, and indeed Moshiri, know that we need more players with these qualities....'proper footballers',and we are making headway in this direction.
Everton supporters need to be patient. Its a difficult ask, but its the best way for supporters to contribute to the efforts of the management. Lets all pull together in the same direction for the benefit of our great club.

 

[davek]

Not that we are comparable to city when they got their cash injection but they still had mark Hughes as manager then. The same mark Hughes who's been sacked twice in the same calendar year. They had a plan and implemented an organisational structure that allowed them to get the man they wanted, 8 years it's taken them to get to where they are. Marco silva is a good coach, him and brands have a plan you've just got to look at the players theyve brought in this season. We are in inconsistent but that's to be expected imo given the first 11 changes.

Digne
Zouma
Richarlison
Bernard
Andre gomes

Last season we lined up with:

Baines
Jagielka
Tosun
Davies
Schneiderlin

We are moving forward, it's clearly a work in progress and theres a lot of work to do to change the mentality of the squad but also the club as a whole. We've talked about competing for a long time now but not done it. Compare the talk coming out of our club vs the talk coming out from spurs who are competing now. Stop saying. Start doing.

The manager and his team need more time. I dont think we are good enough and understand the frustration but hes been here less than 6 months. We've gone from being antifootball last season to playing some genuinely good stuff at times this season. I do think we've been badly unlucky this season but you make your own luck. More time with the squad, a few more winners in the squad and we will be closer. The gap to the top 6 is huge. Remove Mourinho from the equation and the top 6 would be out of site by now, to everyone not just Everton. Yes we've invested and largely spunked money away but who hasn't in this league? The transfers this season have been spot on. Here's hoping 2019 is a better year for us but the signs are encouraging which is more than can be said for this time last year.

Well, you brought City into the fray, so it's only right to point out that what City were able to do was not only change personnel over time, but change personnel after Hughes from very good players to world class players. And they continued to strengthen in all areas under Pellegrini and Guardiola. It takes about half a billion quid....and they never get their players poached.

We will never be in that position.

To make the leap back into the elite we needed a takeover by an individual or group who are fantastically wealthy beyond imagination. We got Moshiri, and that's not a game changer.

It's toe curling now to go back and read the projections about how far we'd progress under Moshiri made in the summer after his arrival. They really do need to be read again and again as a salutary lesson in humility.

Two and a half years on and we're lost. Nowhere. Fighting for an identity.

His time here can only be judged as a failure, though I'm sure I'll be given a battery of data on finances to "prove" it otherwise.

 

[Milk]

Well, you brought City into the fray, so it's only right to point out that what City were able to do was not only change personnel over time, but change personnel after Hughes from very good players to world class players. And they continued to strengthen in all areas under Pellegrini and Guardiola. It takes about half a billion quid....and they never get their players poached.

We will never be in that position.

To make the leap back into the elite we needed a takeover by an individual or group who are fantastically wealthy beyond imagination. We got Moshiri, and that's not a game changer.

It's toe curling now to go back and read the projections about how far we'd progress under Moshiri made in the summer after his arrival. They really do need to be read again and again as a salutary lesson in humility.

Two and a half years on and we're lost. Nowhere. Fighting for an identity.

His time here can only be judged as a failure, though I'm sure I'll be given a battery of data on finances to "prove" it otherwise.

“Never get their players poached ...”

True and that is probably why teams like us will struggle to get into the top 6 never mind top 4 as any of our players showing class will get bought by the money clubs here or abroad

However they seem to haemorrhage their best youth players (bar Foden) so perhaps that is one area we could go fishing?

 

[Dr Baxter]

Well, you brought City into the fray, so it's only right to point out that what City were able to do was not only change personnel over time, but change personnel after Hughes from very good players to world class players. And they continued to strengthen in all areas under Pellegrini and Guardiola. It takes about half a billion quid....and they never get their players poached.

We will never be in that position.

To make the leap back into the elite we needed a takeover by an individual or group who are fantastically wealthy beyond imagination. We got Moshiri, and that's not a game changer.

It's toe curling now to go back and read the projections about how far we'd progress under Moshiri made in the summer after his arrival. They really do need to be read again and again as a salutary lesson in humility.

Two and a half years on and we're lost. Nowhere. Fighting for an identity.

His time here can only be judged as a failure, though I'm sure I'll be given a battery of data on finances to "prove" it otherwise.

Blimey.

 

[davek]

Blimey.

The truth is uncomfortable to hear.

 

[Toffeelover]

Well, you brought City into the fray, so it's only right to point out that what City were able to do was not only change personnel over time, but change personnel after Hughes from very good players to world class players. And they continued to strengthen in all areas under Pellegrini and Guardiola. It takes about half a billion quid....and they never get their players poached.

We will never be in that position.

To make the leap back into the elite we needed a takeover by an individual or group who are fantastically wealthy beyond imagination. We got Moshiri, and that's not a game changer.

It's toe curling now to go back and read the projections about how far we'd progress under Moshiri made in the summer after his arrival. They really do need to be read again and again as a salutary lesson in humility.

Two and a half years on and we're lost. Nowhere. Fighting for an identity.

His time here can only be judged as a failure, though I'm sure I'll be given a battery of data on finances to "prove" it otherwise.

Streets better than staying with BK and as far as I can recall there was no other person interested in our club.

 

[EverBlue92]

Unfortunately he'll go down as another Randy Lerner / Ellis Short - someone who meant well initally putting money into the club however made baffling off the field decision making in terms of manager/DOF appointments and failed to take the club forward.

Meanwhile clubs like Wolves who have owners who seemingly know what they are doing have overtaken us in less than half a season despite spending much less.

Money isnt everything if you appoint the wrong people to spend it and subsequently manage the assets (players).

 

[N.S.N.O.]

It takes about half a billion quid....and they never get their players poached.

We will never be in that position.

Liverpool had Suarez and Sterling poached by richer clubs, they improved... Then they lost Coutinho, and spent the money on their defence and now are gonna win the league...

They're gonna win the league, not because their the richest, but because they recruited brilliantly... Salah was not expensive, firmino and mane were not expensive... Robertson was a steal...

Spurs have built their team on no money, unfortunately the timing of their new stadium has cost them winning the league this season (another slice of luck for Liverpool) as they had no money last summer to strengthen their squad...

We need a bit of luck finding 2 top young players before the big clubs get them first (particularly a striker)...and we need to start finding players like Richarlison and Doucoure before the likes of Watford...

Top 4 is attainable, the Premier league really isn't that strong anymore...

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Top 4 is attainable, the Premier league really isn't that strong anymore...

More teams are stronger in my opinion