Evertons starting formation?

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Starting IX for Blackburn:

_______________Howard
Coleman__Jagielka___Distin___Baines
Billy______Neville____Arteta__Pienaar
___________Cahill
_____________Beckford

Bench:

Mucha
Heitinga
Fellaini
Rodwell
Osman
Gueye
Saha



Is it just me or does is that bench look capable of giving a grown man a serious hard on?
 

1. Moyes also has a history to not wait using player who were coming back from long term injuries, see last season examples of Arteta and Jagielka, playing much more games in first weeks after being back, than expected.
We are going to play at Ewood Park against a very physical Blackburn team - Heitinga probably won't be ready, so Fellaini will have to help central defenders in the air, your starting XI is very small, not a chance it will happen.

2. As good as Gueye looks, he first should be concern to find himself on the bench in PL games, to think he will start at Ewood Park is just shockingly naive.

3. Beckford contributing more than Saha during pre-season is quite arguable, with Saha looking sharp as ever along with his experience, I don't see him being dropped for Beckford.

4. Anichebe is a wide player, who at emergency could operate as forward now. Saha will start, so there's no reason to have both Beckford and Vaughan on the bench, as they are quite similar, and as you pointed out, we will need a variety to give manager options. If Anichebe will play against Wolfsburg he will have a quite big chance to be featured against Blackburn, even as a starter.

1. Jags was rushed back because we needed Heit to beef up the midfield in Fellaini's absence. Arteta came back ealier than expected because we were becoming over-reliant on Pienaar to make things happen for us. In the case of Jags in particular, he wanted to come back to push for a World Cup place. With Arteta we needed a push for Europe. If he had a relapse he would have the summer to recover. We have no such problems now. What would be the sense in putting Fella in before he was ready and jeopardising his progress? Moyes rarely does 'horses for courses'. The only modification I can think of him making to his team out of respect to the opposition was when he played Jags at rightback away at Stoke. If Cahill, Neville and Arteta aren't big enough to handle Blackburn, then why not play a matchfit Rodwell rather than a half-fit Fellaini?

2. How much football has Anichebe played recently? It's looking dubious that he'll be ready for the start of the season. Osman and Bily both have a tendency to be anonymous, especially against physical teams. Throwing Gueye in would give us an element of surprise. He's looked no worse than any of the alternatives that you have suggested. If he wasn't in consideration for a starting place, then he would have only had as much game time over the summer as Baxter, Silva or even Vaughan.

3. Beckford scored a brace against Preston and walked away with the Man of the Match award against Everton Chile. Saha has scored a solitary goal. What else has he done that has stood out? How can you even argue that point? Saha may be more experienced, but he hasn't scored a league goal since March. Moyes might include him to begin with for his hold up play, I think it's only a matter of time though before Beckford does the Marcus Bent job (with goals, hopefully) upfront by himself.

4. Anichebe is a forward who has been utilised as a wide player. If you're starting with Anichebe on the wing and Saha upfront, then why not have Beckford and Vaughan on the bench? Would you rather have three midfielders and just one striker in reserve? When we've been chasing the game Moyes has gambled on 4-3-3. We already have a packed midfield. Are we likely to substitute three of those players for like-for-like replacements?
 
I don't think he will play Pienaar on the right, he's tried it and there will be times where he swaps with whoevers playing on the right but more than not his position will be on the left, cutting inside and linking up with Baines. Moyes has tried him on the right during spells against both Norwich and Everton Chile and on both occasions he's been quiet and ended up switching back to his normal position. I think Bilyaletdinov, Osman or Anichebe will be the right sided players.

And to be fair to Saha's he's looked excellent himself during pre-season, both players have put themselves into contention for a place, and Beckford admitted that he expected to start on the bench and wasn't unhappy about that, he just wants to learn and eventually, get his chance.

I think Saha's aerial ability and presence at set pieces will give him the nod for this game.
 
Nailed on starting XI v Blackburn injuries permitting.

Howard
Neville
Jagielka
Distin
Baines
Bilyaletdinov
Arteta
Rodwell
Pienaar
Cahill
Saha

Alternating between a 4-4-2 with Cahill as an out and out striker (as we saw yesterday v CD Everton) and a 4-5-1 with Cahill dropping into the midfield.

And yes, you may bookmark this post if you wish.

The bench is the best part, and will leave people guessing, but I'm pretty sure this will be the XI v Blackburn.
 
I'm very excited about Billy and the fact that it's a guarantee that any goal he scores, it's pure class and technique.

I'm now sure he has the best left foot in the country.
 

Saha has looked ace in pre season and is a far more accomplished striker than Beckford, he should clearly start.

But it's the usual start of season thing, bigging up the new signings before they have proved anything.
 
My point is that, going off the lineups that Moyes has put out over the summer, it should be no surprise if Beckford started ahead of Saha and if we had Pienaar operating from the right and Gueye from the left. Nobody can say with any certainty what the starting eleven will be on the first day of the season.

I would find it very strange if we started the season with Neville at right back, when Coleman has spent almost the entire pre-season there, whilst Pip has slotted into central midfield and at left back. I can appreciate that the manager would want to take a look at Beckford and Gueye during the warm up matches and that it might not be an indicator that they're Premiership-ready. If Saha was going to be our main striker though, I would have expected that Moyes would have given him the matches against Norwich and Everton Chile to find his sharpness. Is he carrying a knock?

It would be un-Moyes-like for him to put out anything but his strongest side in any match, even if it is the Brotherhood Cup. I personally feel that our lineup come the season opener won't be too much different from the side we have seen in the last few friendlies. Depending on fitness the only change might be to bring Heitinga in.
 
Nailed on starting XI v Blackburn injuries permitting.

Howard
Neville
Jagielka
Distin
Baines
Bilyaletdinov
Arteta
Rodwell
Pienaar
Cahill
Saha

Alternating between a 4-4-2 with Cahill as an out and out striker (as we saw yesterday v CD Everton) and a 4-5-1 with Cahill dropping into the midfield.

And yes, you may bookmark this post if you wish.

The bench is the best part, and will leave people guessing, but I'm pretty sure this will be the XI v Blackburn.
I will gladly bookmark your post, to show you later how wrong you were. There's no chance that Moyes will start Rodwell playing deep alongside Arteta, as Rodwell over last 12 months didn't show anything that he deserve a chance to play at that position in difficult game like at Blackburb. Osman shows more competetive spirit and better ability, as well as willingness to get dirty in midfield, if Rodwell and Cahill would have to start together, it would be Cahill playing deep and Rodwell playing behind the striker.

But Rodwell will be on the bench, with Fellaini/Neville/Osman/Heitinga starting alongside Arteta, with Fellaini being my surprising pick.

1. Jags was rushed back because we needed Heit to beef up the midfield in Fellaini's absence. Arteta came back ealier than expected because we were becoming over-reliant on Pienaar to make things happen for us. In the case of Jags in particular, he wanted to come back to push for a World Cup place. With Arteta we needed a push for Europe. If he had a relapse he would have the summer to recover. We have no such problems now. What would be the sense in putting Fella in before he was ready and jeopardising his progress? Moyes rarely does 'horses for courses'. The only modification I can think of him making to his team out of respect to the opposition was when he played Jags at rightback away at Stoke. If Cahill, Neville and Arteta aren't big enough to handle Blackburn, then why not play a matchfit Rodwell rather than a half-fit Fellaini?

2. How much football has Anichebe played recently? It's looking dubious that he'll be ready for the start of the season. Osman and Bily both have a tendency to be anonymous, especially against physical teams. Throwing Gueye in would give us an element of surprise. He's looked no worse than any of the alternatives that you have suggested. If he wasn't in consideration for a starting place, then he would have only had as much game time over the summer as Baxter, Silva or even Vaughan.

3. Beckford scored a brace against Preston and walked away with the Man of the Match award against Everton Chile. Saha has scored a solitary goal. What else has he done that has stood out? How can you even argue that point? Saha may be more experienced, but he hasn't scored a league goal since March. Moyes might include him to begin with for his hold up play, I think it's only a matter of time though before Beckford does the Marcus Bent job (with goals, hopefully) upfront by himself.

4. Anichebe is a forward who has been utilised as a wide player. If you're starting with Anichebe on the wing and Saha upfront, then why not have Beckford and Vaughan on the bench? Would you rather have three midfielders and just one striker in reserve? When we've been chasing the game Moyes has gambled on 4-3-3. We already have a packed midfield. Are we likely to substitute three of those players for like-for-like replacements?
1. Fair enough, but that's why Fellaini will play against Blackburn, because Heitinga's fitness will be even lower, and in that kind of game we need his physical presence. He will be used more sporadically in games after Blackburn. But we need him against Big Sam's team and (hopefully) Moyes will be determined to start the season with a bang.
2. I have no idea why are you continuing a topic about Gueye starting at Ewood Park, he will be happy to see himself on the bench. And Anichebe didn't miss much of the preseason, he missed last 2 games, after being used frequently in earlier ones, he also barely missed any practice sessions. Also, it's nice to point out that Ossie and Billy have a tendency to be anonymous, too bad we can't say that about Gueye... ooops, it's because he never played a Premiership game. And according to you he will start at Blackburn, good luck with that.
3. Beckford has bigger chance, but Saha when he was playing, he was good enough to win a starting XI spot for the start of the season. Again, Beckford will be happy enough to be a bench player, but difference to Gueye is that, he actually can have a chance to get some minutes in later stages of the game. He got rest last night, but he will play against Wolfsburg and he will start at Ewood Park.
4. Anichebe is no longer a forward, with the way you are explaining it, somebody could think Anichebe was playing all that time as RM despite being a forward during practices. No, he was a centre forward in the past who was converted in to wide midfielder and now it's his no1 position.
 
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Nailed on starting XI v Blackburn injuries permitting.

Howard
Neville
Jagielka
Distin
Baines
Bilyaletdinov
Arteta
Rodwell
Pienaar
Cahill
Saha

Alternating between a 4-4-2 with Cahill as an out and out striker (as we saw yesterday v CD Everton) and a 4-5-1 with Cahill dropping into the midfield.

And yes, you may bookmark this post if you wish.

The bench is the best part, and will leave people guessing, but I'm pretty sure this will be the XI v Blackburn.

Not bad, but have a feeling Rodwell will start from bench in opener. I believe he'll have many opportunities to start this year, but starting the opener seems a bit much. I think Moyes will be careful to set a precedent w/ young Jack. He will bring him along, but be careful not to allow false expectations or sense of entitlement early on. Could be wrong, just my hunch.

So much depends on fitness of johnny & fellaini. If neither are deemed ready, I think we'll see something like:

Timmy
Coleman (please??)
Jags
Distin
Baines
Nev
Mikel
Bily
Stevie P
Cahill
Saha

Bench:
Mucha
Beckford
Rodwell
Osman
Vic
Hibbo
Vaughan/Yak/Fella/Heit/Gueye (beats me which of these!)

I simply do not see either of Cahill or Nev NOT starting the opener. One way or another they'll be there. From there, Heit/Fellaini fitness (or Moyes' decision on them for this game, whether fitness, or otherwise) will have domino effect. If both play, Coleman & Distin likely lose out. If one of them play, it could go either way on which of these 2 gets the nod.
 
Howard
Neville Jags Distin Baines
Billy, Arteta, Cahill, Felli, Pienaar
Saha

Subs:
Mucha, Coleman, Heitinga, Rodwell, Osman, Beckford, Yakubu

To miss out:
Turner, Yobo, Hibbert, Anichebe, Vaughan, Gueye, Wallace, Agard, Baxter, Silva
 

Howard
Neville Jags Distin Baines
Billy, Arteta, Cahill, Felli, Pienaar
Saha

Subs:
Mucha, Coleman, Heitinga, Rodwell, Osman, Beckford, Yakubu

To miss out:
Turner, Yobo, Hibbert, Anichebe, Vaughan, Gueye, Wallace, Agard, Baxter, Silva


switch distin for heitinga and thats what i would choose
 
switch distin for heitinga and thats what i would choose

I think it's fairly agreed that w/ fully fit squad (which involves fellaini in DM role), jags/heit are our 1st choice pairing. But the question is who will start the opener. And I think it's very possible we see Distin, partly b/c of johny's late start, but also in part Distin's physical presence against a team who's only chance to compete revolves around ability to impose their physicality on us. Plus I think we will see Distin come good & prove to be a quality player on a consistent basis. Moyes looks to be bringing the best out of him (what else is new??!).

What's more amazing than anything is how many quality options we have. It's truly unbelievable. I'm a firm proponent of cautious optimism, but DAMN!! All I can do to curb the boyish enthusiasm this year.
 
I think it's fairly agreed that w/ fully fit squad (which involves fellaini in DM role), jags/heit are our 1st choice pairing. But the question is who will start the opener. And I think it's very possible we see Distin, partly b/c of johny's late start, but also in part Distin's physical presence against a team who's only chance to compete revolves around ability to impose their physicality on us. Plus I think we will see Distin come good & prove to be a quality player on a consistent basis. Moyes looks to be bringing the best out of him (what else is new??!).

What's more amazing than anything is how many quality options we have. It's truly unbelievable. I'm a firm proponent of cautious optimism, but DAMN!! All I can do to curb the boyish enthusiasm this year.

yeah thats true. i only worry against faster teams, like arsenal. i think distin struggles against them. heitinga doesnt really. but distin should do great against blackburn.
 
Howard
Coleman Heitinga Jagielka Baines
Billy Arteta Fellaini Pienaar
Cahill
Saha


Hard 11 to pick, i can tell ya.
 

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