Everton, our summer transfers and short term cost control regulations

[Ollie d]

I'd love to keep all our potential world class stars but unfortunately to get to where we want to be it does look like Stones may be sacrificed. Selling 4/5/6 squad players isn't going to be the answer because a) they will need replacing so no real benefit b) is there genuine interest in those players and c) for homegrown players quotas the likes of Cleverley , McCarthy and Lennon make that quota up and to replace them with equivalent players ( a la point a) it will cost too much.
That's my take on things anyway.

 

[Aar_the_Toffees]

I'd rather sell Rom for 50 mil than Stones at all. Strikers can be replaced. Finding a ball playing CB would be almost impossible.

 

[4737carlin]

I'd rather sell Rom for 50 mil than Stones at all. Strikers can be replaced. Finding a ball playing CB would be almost impossible.

A ball playing CB isnt that important if you are comparing that to someone who can score goals, having a 20+ goal a season striker is far better to Everton, even if he is with a ball in row Z defender.

 

[bluestevon]

@bluestevon like this today, we shouldnt sell him. You dont sell players like this if you want to compete at the top.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-sweeper-midfielder-master-Ronald-Koeman.html

You do realsie that the entire nature of that article is he isn't good enough to be a guaranteed starter for City, chelsea or United so should stay at Everton until he improves enough to then go to one of them mate.

It doesn't mention a single thing about our ambitions and why we should keep hold of him, it is entirely written from the perspective of what is best for Stones to develop as a player - not Everton as a club

 

[bluestevon]

I'd rather sell Rom for 50 mil than Stones at all. Strikers can be replaced. Finding a ball playing CB would be almost impossible.

No mate the fact we have in the 29 years since we last won the league had 5 seasons with a striker scoring 15 or more league goals and two of those seasons have been Lukaku shows that it isn't very easy to replace someone like that really.

Show me how many teams have won this league without a top striker who gan grab 15-20 goals a season compared to how many have won the league without a top ball playing cb

 

[Aar_the_Toffees]

A ball playing CB isnt that important if you are comparing that to someone who can score goals, having a 20+ goal a season striker is far better to Everton, even if he is with a ball in row Z defender.

No mate the fact we have in the 29 years since we last won the league had 5 seasons with a striker scoring 15 or more league goals and two of those seasons have been Lukaku shows that it isn't very easy to replace someone like that really.

Show me how many teams have won this league without a top striker who gan grab 15-20 goals a season compared to how many have won the league without a top ball playing cb

I wasn't getting my point across clear enough it seems. In no way am I saying a ball playing CB is more important to a title contending team than a top striker is. I'm simply saying that Stones is a special player and a player of his type and potential don't come around very often. Lukaku can be replaced as there are a lot of top strikers across Europe. For that reason I would rather sell Rom than Stones. Obviously we would have to replace Rom with another top class striker.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

I'd love to keep all our potential world class stars but unfortunately to get to where we want to be it does look like Stones may be sacrificed. Selling 4/5/6 squad players isn't going to be the answer because a) they will need replacing so no real benefit b) is there genuine interest in those players and c) for homegrown players quotas the likes of Cleverley , McCarthy and Lennon make that quota up and to replace them with equivalent players ( a la point a) it will cost too much.
That's my take on things anyway.

Whilst sacrificing John would undoubtedly curry favour with the footballing gods, I'd opt to sell him instead as I think we could really use the £45m.

Flippancy mode off though, totally agree. One big name looks like they have to go, and it might as well be Stones out of the 'big 3'.

 

[matty1878]

No " big player" has to be sold for any reason other than personal gain. Sell stones over lukaku all day long. Strikers at this level are harder to replace than defenders.

 

[mlyons]

Your 1st sentence is nonsense if youve seen him oast 2 seasons and compare with Stones. If you rate coleman higher than stones then YOU dont understand football.

Also there are no signs stones wants to leave under the current management.

Most people don't rate Coleman higher than Stones. Coleman's the only senior right back at the club, though (unless you want to count Browning, and I personally think it's a bad idea to count on young players recovering from injuries that severe). Selling him doesn't make any sense, because we'd have to spend more to replace him than we'd make from the sale. The same does not apply to Stones.

 

[Ollie d]

Whilst sacrificing John would undoubtedly curry favour with the footballing gods, I'd opt to sell him instead as I think we could really use the £45m.

Flippancy mode off though, totally agree. One big name looks like they have to go, and it might as well be Stones out of the 'big 3'.

Mate for us to win the league once more I'd offer to sacrifice anyone on GOT to the footballing gods, who's first to volunteer?
As much as I really rate Stones I do think he is the one to go.

 

[Axlswhk]

we do not need to sell. Fear mongering at its worst in GOT and it's embarrassing to see so many fallen into it

 

[blue to the bone]

we do not need to sell. Fear mongering at its worst in GOT and it's embarrassing to see so many fallen into it

Is this from the same source who told you either emery or Simeone would be next manager

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Mate for us to win the league once more I'd offer to sacrifice anyone on GOT to the footballing gods, who's first to volunteer?
As much as I really rate Stones I do think he is the one to go.

I hope you don't take my 'like' to be a sign of volunteering. There's plenty I could recommend on here but I don't think they'd appease the footy gods

 

[riddick]

Im sure this has been asked, but what of the sell on clause for Stones? Does the 'we can invest X from Stones sale' factor in the 15-20% we probably owe Barnsley for Stones?

 

[18efc78]

Could Farhad not offer new signings minimum wage to play for Everton but give them a second job in one of his companies for 100k a week?