Everton January 2022 Transfer Thread

[Nyhus]

We`ve missed the boat but my preferred 1st choice CB would be partnering Godfrey with someone like Fikayo Tomori, both young, athletic, aggreessive and with obscene pace for CBs.

Nice to imagine, but id prefer someone with knowhow back there over two guys that are quick.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Life expectancy for Icelanders is 83.22 years.

Not on N wing.

 

[Bedfordblue]

I may be wrong but I think if he was going to be charged at all it would have happened by now ?

Welcome to the UK justice system

 

[lungo]

Michael Keane is the same as James Tarkowski or Ben Mee, a player who can do well when asked to consistently head balls away from his box but none of them have a positional understanding fit to make them a top class CB. He has some good attributes but every player at PL level does. He is not fit to elevate a team on his own and he should not be close to being a first choice starter CB in a team wanting to win things.

Keane, Tarkowski and Mee can do a job in a good team as a second centre back alongside a real leader but any less and you get what we have, mixed performances.

Mee and Tarkowski have courage , Keane is a headless chicken!

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Not on N wing.

Lolling here

 

[Tree13]

Nice to imagine, but id prefer someone with knowhow back there over two guys that are quick.

Is it too much to ask for one CB who has the knowhow AND the pace / athleticism? I mean, we're talking about wages of £75k per week upwards.

 

[catcherintherye]

I think you'll find he's on full pay my son.

God bless.

I would be quite surprised if that was the case. If hes suspended pay will be too, or as a worst case insurance will cover it.

 

[billyblue80]

Mee and Tarkowski have courage , Keane is a headless chicken!

He's the cowardly lion meets the Tin man. He is good in a low block but can get destroyed if asked to push higher up.

 

[scratchnsurf]

I would be quite surprised if that was the case. If hes suspended pay will be too, or as a worst case insurance will cover it.

If an employee has not been charged with anything, let alone tried or convicted, what right does the employer have to stop their wages if they make themselves available to work?

 

[Mrtallywacker]

I would be quite surprised if that was the case. If hes suspended pay will be too, or as a worst case insurance will cover it.

You cannot withhold pay on the basis of an allegation (which is all it is at the moment) my son.
While suspended you are still an employee with the rights and protections of employment laws.

God bless.

 

[catcherintherye]

You cannot withhold pay on the basis of an allegation (which is all it is at the moment) my son.
While suspended you are still an employee with the rights and protections of employment laws.

God bless.

I think once you are charged by the police (which I believe it is) you can withhold pay. Generally people suspended without pay.

If not, insurance will be covering it.

 

[catcherintherye]

If an employee has not been charged with anything, let alone tried or convicted, what right does the employer have to stop their wages if they make themselves available to work?

If you are charged, it makes a big difference. I don't want to get into enormous details, but hypothetically if you were charged by the police a crime of x,y or z employers will often suspend without pay.

 

[Nyhus]

Is it too much to ask for one CB who has the knowhow AND the pace / athleticism? I mean, we're talking about wages of £75k per week upwards.

If theyre both going to be in their early 20s, yes. Knowhow comes with experience. A player aged 22 will have less than say a 27 year old. I dont think defence is where we should just go for just youth and potential, it will not end good for us.

 

[Bedfordblue]

If you are charged, it makes a big difference. I don't want to get into enormous details, but hypothetically if you were charged by the police a crime of x,y or z employers will often suspend without pay.

Hypothetically if footballers could have their wages withheld for an arrest and charge until court / sentencing, the same principle would apply to drink driving charges etc. I really don’t think any agent worth his salt would present a client with a contract that could so easily result in hundreds of thousands of pounds being withheld from them.
Once someone is found guilty of a crime and any suspensions being found to have been reasonable to prevent the employer being brought into disrepute, I would wholly expend any contractual fees paid to be recoverable, especially when the nature of said accusations reasonably prevented the player from fulfilling his contractual obligations.
Until such time he’ll be getting paid the vast majority of his contract.

 

[catcherintherye]

Hypothetically if footballers could have their wages withheld for an arrest and charge until court / sentencing, the same principle would apply to drink driving charges etc. I really don’t think any agent worth his salt would present a client with a contract that could so easily result in hundreds of thousands of pounds being withheld from them.
Once someone is found guilty of a crime and any suspensions being found to have been reasonable to prevent the employer being brought into disrepute, I would wholly expend any contractual fees paid to be recoverable, especially when the nature of said accusations reasonably prevented the player from fulfilling his contractual obligations.
Until such time he’ll be getting paid the vast majority of his contract.

Maybe. I dont want to get into specifics, but I wouldnt be surprised if contracts had a clause in, which said for certain offences, if a charge is brought it is suspension without pay. That would be quite typical within the public sector.

Either way, insurance will likely cover any fees if he is unable to play. If he is found guilty, they may also seek damages.

A messy situation. I dont want to get into specifics, but I would be very surprised if the club were picking up wages. But I didnt negotiate the contract, so it is just an educated guess.