Everton and VAR

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SpongeBob brown shoes said:
I see we've wrote a letter to the premier league expressing our concerns over VAR along with Man city and Villa, about time the club grew a pair and complained
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How the table would look if there was no VAR.
 
A massive rethink is needed about how VAR is implemented during games, with the onfield referee having the final say on any decisions. Are sideline VAR monitor checks by referees no longer a thing?
 
Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
www.theguardian.com

Premier League clubs side with referees and back VAR despite fans’ gripes

Premier League clubs have chosen to avoid drastic action over VAR, with only the smallest of tweaks expected before the season’s end
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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They need to make blanket rules to make their lives easier.

With the TAA and Alli decisions they’ve set the bar for handball so high they might as well never give handball unless the player has literally stuck a hand out to save a shot. I for one fully expect a dubious one against us soon though.

They need a time limit too. You’ve got 30 seconds. Did the ref miss something clear and obvious? Well clearly not if you’re watching it in slow mo from 10 different angles for 3 minutes.
 

kenada_blue said:
So...what do we get out of it? Nothing.

When a player breaks the rules like Niasse did, hes suspended for 2 games hurting the squad.

When the officials openly admit a mistake that costs us points, there's no repercussions.

Absolute joke and says everything about how VAR doesn't work
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Yeah and decisions like this against teams can cost them European football or relegation. Yeah where all human and will make mistakes but there are mistakes then gross incompetence.
 
CahillsCornerFlag said:
They need to make blanket rules to make their lives easier.

With the TAA and Alli decisions they’ve set the bar for handball so high they might as well never give handball unless the player has literally stuck a hand out to save a shot. I for one fully expect a dubious one against us soon though.

They need a time limit too. You’ve got 30 seconds. Did the ref miss something clear and obvious? Well clearly not if you’re watching it in slow mo from 10 different angles for 3 minutes.
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Ball hits Mina's arm, when he has it on the ground, sliding to block a shot in the Anfield derby.
VAR give a penalty.
 
Cels said:
A massive rethink is needed about how VAR is implemented during games, with the onfield referee having the final say on any decisions. Are sideline VAR monitor checks by referees no longer a thing?
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Apparently Riley has told refs to use it now, but until the complaints they were instructed not to even though every other major league use monitors as intended. It’s much more sensible for the ref to review their own decision with other angles, maybe have a quick chat for a second opinion but ultimately leave it up to them.
 

ossie_21 said:
Apparently Riley has told refs to use it now, but until the complaints they were instructed not to even though every other major league use monitors as intended. It’s much more sensible for the ref to review their own decision with other angles, maybe have a quick chat for a second opinion but ultimately leave it up to them.
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Cheers.

It just seems so obvious to us all that if there is a doubt concerning a decision, the man who is actually refereeing the match should be able to go and check it out for himself once it's been brought to his attention. Then he can simply say: "Right, I made a mistake" or "No. I'm happy with my initial call". I guess this what you get when you have people in charge that know the game, but don't understand the game.
 
Just stop all these tables of what it would have, could have, should have been. For years them idiots have produced their own league table to pretend it’s something different. Have we been done and on the wrong side of poor decisions? Of course we have.

Tell me something new, but posting alternative league tables to prove a hypothetical point? Really?

If we took more chances, stopped making stupid mistakes that gift goals away, showed some bollocks when we go behind, you know we’d also have more points and be further up the table......we all know this, so pretending if VAR was this that and the other makes you feel better, keep producing your versions of reality. For me, it’s just another excuse to hide behind.
 
Cels said:
Cheers.

It just seems so obvious to us all that if there is a doubt concerning a decision, the man who is actually refereeing the match should be able to go and check it out for himself once it's been brought to his attention. Then he can simply say: "Right, I made a mistake" or "No. I'm happy with my initial call". I guess this what you get when you have people in charge that know the game, but don't understand the game.
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It's bad enough as it is, long stoppages approaching 5 minutes. How much longer is it going to be when first the man in his VAR office takes several minutes to decide whether he goes with the ref's call or not and then the ref takes a few more if called upon to make the final decision. And after all that we'd still get a decision that half the punters would say is incorrect!
Let's just call VAR for what it is -- a failed initiative that no amount of pitchside deliberation will improve and which should be scrapped immediately.
 
So as soon as the ball hit the back of the net to make it 1-0 Liverpool VAR was going to fail. No screen at anfield means that goal was always going to stand and VAR was never going to used for the rest of the game maybe even the season... If the ball goes out for a goal kick the ref gives a pen... No doubt
 

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