A hair under 4 seconds it was, from the point Wan Bissau’s hit him (note, NOT the time Sigurdsson hit the floor) to Calvert-Lewin striking the ball.Love the way that keeps saying Sigurdsson is pretending to be injured despite less than 10 seconds earlier been wiped out clean,even when they are getting told that by people
Thought De Gea was weak on that myself and went up not looking,but that was another one that could have gone both ways really i think,he got away with another one a week or so later at Anfield think it was-everything no matter if VAR or not is almost always subjective-you can have full time refs in VAR but that wont mean they are right,in the same way that making Refs full time as they did was suppose to make them better,also in the same way that they say ex players should become refs etc because they played the game-which for me again it would still be subjective from an ex player
It was in fact only about 4 secondsLove the way that keeps saying Sigurdsson is pretending to be injured despite less than 10 seconds earlier been wiped out clean,even when they are getting told that by people
The thing is I don't believe they even got it right by the letter of the law. If they're going by the blocking the keepers sight part of the law then they are saying that Sigurdsson was clearly in the keepers direct line of sight. That's just blatantly untrue. And the law uses the words clearly and direct. That's not me making it up.
Watching Ask the Ref or whatever it’s called on Sky Sports, you could see the exasperation on the Sky interviewer’s face when Dermot Gallacher refuted his argument that it should have stood, and then Warnock also said it should have been given! On the plus side, Carlo has made us relevant again, him going onto the pitch has meant half the country is arguing over this.
Dermot comes from the same town as me ,before he started reffing he supported united think he may have even had a man utd tattoo at one time
I know I'm just a stupid Yank, but has there been any explanation of which part of the offside rule Sigurdsson violated?
Offside position
It is not an offence to be in an offside position.
A player is in an offside position if:
A player is not in an offside position if level with the:
- any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half (excluding the halfway line) and
- any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent
- The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered.
Offside offence
- second-last opponent or
- last two opponents
A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
*The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used
- interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
- interfering with an opponent by:
- preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
- challenging an opponent for the ball or
- clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
- making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
or
A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).
- gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
- rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
- been deliberately saved by any opponent
- A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save by any opponent) is not considered to have gained an advantage.
And this is the whole reason why var has been such a disaster,var should just be an advisory ,onfield ref should have the final decision after watching back a replay of the contested decision,the other major problem is var only seems to be interested in looking at ridiculous offsides(armpits,heels,people sat/lying on the floor) and totally ignores obvious decisions(walcott penalty v brighton),it would help if we didnt have so many substandard referees both on pitch and at stockley park,maybe john moss vision was obscured by his belly when he was laying down in the truck.
I know I'm just a stupid Yank, but has there been any explanation of which part of the offside rule Sigurdsson violated?
Offside position
It is not an offence to be in an offside position.
A player is in an offside position if:
A player is not in an offside position if level with the:
- any part of the head, body or feet is in the opponents’ half (excluding the halfway line) and
- any part of the head, body or feet is nearer to the opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent
- The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered.
Offside offence
- second-last opponent or
- last two opponents
A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
*The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used
- interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
- interfering with an opponent by:
[*]preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or- challenging an opponent for the ball or
- clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
- making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
or
A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).
- gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
- rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
- been deliberately saved by any opponent
- A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save by any opponent) is not considered to have gained an advantage.
