Everton and VAR

[Igrok]

No sir
Its the decisions over the past 2 games that could & should have us in 7th place this morning.
VAR has cost us badly.

Say it to Leicester or Sheffield United..

 

[bilyaletdinov_]

VAR has really let us down in recent weeks, to the point where claims of corruption actually sound feasible. It needs sorting out desperately!

 

[Paul Rideout]

VAR has really let us down in recent weeks, to the point where claims of corruption actually sound feasible. It needs sorting out desperately!

This to me is the biggest danger. It really does reek of corrupt officials and brand ‘premier league’ being favourable to its more marketable teams, internationally.

 

[God Benfrey]

As a rugby fan I really was pro VAR at start of season, seeing how well it's used in rugby but now there is no defending it. It can't just be an ageing ref with eyesight as bad as Stevie wonder staring at a monitor miles away guessing, leaving everyone in the dark. Just sort it out ffs and get rid of these old past it refs that clearly have no [Poor language removed] clue what they are doing.

 

[maccavennie]

I honestly just don't see how it can't work like this

Ref misses something
VAR tells ref to go and look at the monitor as he may have missed something
Ref looks and changes his decision if he's missed something

All done in about a minute and the decision still lies with the referee

 

[hallamblue]

The thing with football is, there aren't hard and fast rules like some sports. Take that "handball" yesterday. Mina skimmed the ball off his head. If he'd made full contact it wouldn't have hit Dele's hand. Hitting the hand did not prevent the ball going in the net, or change the direction massively, therefore the VAR ref has to make a decision about whether it's handball or not. In a game like field hockey, if it hits your leg it's an infringement, whether you kicked it, or whether the opponent deliberately hit it onto your leg makes no difference.

The rules are open to interpretation (other than offside) and therefore technology can't remove controversy.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

The thing with football is, there aren't hard and fast rules like some sports. Take that "handball" yesterday. Mina skimmed the ball off his head. If he'd made full contact it wouldn't have hit Dele's hand. Hitting the hand did not prevent the ball going in the net, or change the direction massively, therefore the VAR ref has to make a decision about whether it's handball or not. In a game like field hockey, if it hits your leg it's an infringement, whether you kicked it, or whether the opponent deliberately hit it onto your leg makes no difference.

The rules are open to interpretation (other than offside) and therefore technology can't remove controversy.

If you look at how the video ref works in RL, they have a protocol to follow on every decision. Check on-side, check whatever the ref has referred it for, then check the grounding. In each case, they know what they're looking for, only get involved when the ref isn't sure and the TV audience (if not those at the ground) can hear what they're looking at.

same with the Cricket.

Football is just a mess. As somebody else said the problem with VAR is that it's the same idiots operating it that put us in a position of needing it in the first place. If we must go down this insane road of attempting to make the subjective objective can't we just get legendary refs who are too old to run around to operate it? Collina and the like?

 

[evertonarntwe]

just think in the past 3 games ( league games )

West ham- Disallowed Minas goal for Zilch, imagine they equalised at the end before we scored out second? would have cost us 2 points

Brighton- the pen decision against keane, disgusting, cost us points

spurs- the pen on richarlison, the alli handball, and then the richarlison one at the end

on a deadly serious note, I can only remember villa getting done by var when they scored a winner away at palace but got disallowed for some odd reason, other than that?

mad how much bad luck this club has init

 

[blulouie]

The thing with football is, there aren't hard and fast rules like some sports. Take that "handball" yesterday. Mina skimmed the ball off his head. If he'd made full contact it wouldn't have hit Dele's hand. Hitting the hand did not prevent the ball going in the net, or change the direction massively, therefore the VAR ref has to make a decision about whether it's handball or not. In a game like field hockey, if it hits your leg it's an infringement, whether you kicked it, or whether the opponent deliberately hit it onto your leg makes no difference.

The rules are open to interpretation (other than offside) and therefore technology can't remove controversy.

It was the same type of handball ( ball not bound for the net as you say) as Sissoko in the Champions lge final agst Liverpool.

Handball ?
Either is or is not....yesterdays definately was.

 

[monty]

You're dead right there, that's exactly what the officials are doing, re-interpreting the rules to cover their decision.
I didn't think they would dare to flick it up as badly as they are doing at the minute.

How could Alli be protecting the left hand side of his face with his right hand in that situation, anyone exposing that theory is either an idiot or biased. Hand ball is hand ball no matter what unless you contort the rules to fit an illicit agenda. Silva is refusing to get involved, he is the manager and I have to say politeness is one thing but growing a pair is another. Silva must man up or ship our as our players deserve someone to defend them.
Are the FA going to ask the right the right questions, no because they are as corrupt as the officials running our once great game. We must consider the Clattenburg 2007 derby, his officiating went beyond diabolical for reasons well documented sadly Atkinson is now under that same cloud, it sucks.
I would also like to see Carragher, Spit the pundit, issued with a life ban from Goodison after his statements yesterday, he is beyond a joke. I'd love Sky to employ Duncan to comment on red matches by God the dogs would howl at his opinion which may be biased bit we've had to put up with Spit for far too long

 

[mahermi1]

Dermot Gallagher ref watch, Spurs penalty appeal by Song, no pen VAR correct.
Ali's handball penalty so said Dermot, hand above shoulder height, as I said Kieran , a VAR ruling. Richarlison last man challenge, Dermot said hard to tell if there was any contact, the other two sky representatives, said contact made sending off for Aurier.
But during that Dermot appeared to say the last penalty appeal against Richarlison, should have been a penalty as well, but Dermot was cut off and the other last ditch challenge by Aurier was talked about. Missed his call on Son about his sending off. So VAR has screwed us out of two penalties this week. Experiment should be ended now abject failure, think it's killing football not just Everton.

 

[Ring master]

[He actually said spurs pen yesterday,today no]

 

[Thomasc]

Dermot Gallagher ref watch, Spurs penalty appeal by Song, no pen VAR correct.
Ali's handball penalty so said Dermot, hand above shoulder height, as I said Kieran , a VAR ruling. Richarlison last man challenge, Dermot said hard to tell if there was any contact, the other two sky representatives, said contact made sending off for Aurier.
But during that Dermot appeared to say the last penalty appeal against Richarlison, should have been a penalty as well, but Dermot was cut off and the other last ditch challenge by Aurier was talked about. Missed his call on Son about his sending off. So VAR has screwed us out of two penalties this week. Experiment should be ended now abject failure, think it's killing football not just Everton.

the Richarlison one was easier to give than the handball, anywhere else on the pitch and it’s a foul, blatant penalty.

 

[mahermi1]

the Richarlison one was easier to give than the handball, anywhere else on the pitch and it’s a foul, blatant penalty.

Noticed yesterday every time Richarlison got put down, the referee and I use that term loosely, just turned his back.
Now some of that is down to Ritchie, who is down far too much, but some of them for me were blatant fouls, ref was a disgrace yesterday. Couldn't help but fume over Carragher's reaction, slagging off Ritchie for diving, when his team has Mane and Salah, who fall from a guest of wind. Feel Richarlison is getting a bad rep and poor protection because of it.

 

[TonyT65]

Not checked if this has already been posted but just read the following....

(And the Premier League have now released the reason behind why the hosts weren't awarded a spot-kick for the incident.
The statement read: "The VAR considered that both Alli and Mina were challenging for the ball in the air and Alli was under pressure from the attacker as the ball struck his hand.

"In his view it was not a clear and obvious error.")

Now if that's the case, how can it possibly take over 3 mins and numerous replays to just confirm Ali was under pressure??.

Absolute joke.