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BigBlueConk
Player Valuation: £70m
I agree with this...
"TBF we did brilliantly that season, to win 7 on the bounce is incredible, to do it at the end of the season makes it even more so. It was the perfect blend of fresh impetus of Martinez and Moyes defence. The defence was always going to collapse under Martinez, but that season in isolation was fantastic. The shine was wiped right off it by only just getting as many points in the next two seasons combined."
Footballers are also a precious breed, they no doubt enjoyed the novelty from Moyes to Martinez (sort of like Pearson to Ranieri), before like fans, finding Martinez incredibly tedious.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £120m
In a freak event, we had a "new manager bounce" that lasted an entire season.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
That Arsenal 3-0 game is the only time i've ever witnessed an Everton side take it to a supposedly superior side and absolutely wipe the floor with them in a crucial must win game.
Then shortly after we bottled the Palace home game where Pulis sussed us and that Southampton away defeat with 2 own goals was the start of Martinez' new look abysmal Everton. I also think that 2-0 lead thrown away in the last 10 minutes at the start of the next season against Arsenal was the catalyst for Everton to become the side we did under him. We bottled game after game and Martinez grew too arrogant about not needing to focus on defending.
Then shortly after we bottled the Palace home game where Pulis sussed us and that Southampton away defeat with 2 own goals was the start of Martinez' new look abysmal Everton. I also think that 2-0 lead thrown away in the last 10 minutes at the start of the next season against Arsenal was the catalyst for Everton to become the side we did under him. We bottled game after game and Martinez grew too arrogant about not needing to focus on defending.
Tony Hibbert's 3rd leg
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It was the start of the brief possession football movement in Europe's leagues. The teams or managers who find the new effective styles before they are eventually universally used will always have instant success until it becomes ubiquitous.
We were only one of a few teams in the premier league to adopt that style from the start. That combined with a well drilled and organised defence from the previous season.
The best mangers adapt or at least tweak their philosophy accordingly. Once possession based football was deconstructed that was it. And guess what led to its downfall? The high press which we see now.
We played some wonderful football though. Arsenal away springs to mind.
We were only one of a few teams in the premier league to adopt that style from the start. That combined with a well drilled and organised defence from the previous season.
The best mangers adapt or at least tweak their philosophy accordingly. Once possession based football was deconstructed that was it. And guess what led to its downfall? The high press which we see now.
We played some wonderful football though. Arsenal away springs to mind.
As soon as Pulis showed the rest of the PL how to play Everton it was the end of RM's tenure, he just could not cope and learn how to adjust.
The football in that season was some of the best, it was a shame because we looked ruthless
The football in that season was some of the best, it was a shame because we looked ruthless
silent bob
What a guy.
And close thread.
MikeH72
Player Valuation: £120m
The funny thing about the Palace game is that it was a rescheduled fixture after the roof fell off Goodison due to high winds one night, it was originally meant to be played in February some time. Who knows what would have happened if we'd played that game when we were meant to. That's just peak Everton I guess.
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Actually we didn't always play with such pace and tempo, a lot of the times we passed the ball about the back for no reason. As soon as teams realised the way tow in was to hit us on the break home and away, we would concedes silly goals - as highlighted by seasons two and three.
See Palace as a prime example of a team we struggle to break down at home.
See Palace as a prime example of a team we struggle to break down at home.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
For the most part, it was a glorious exhibition of what could be. Everyone bought into it: fans and players and media. But it couldn't last. It was almost too good to be true playing like that and winning 21 out of 38 games on the relative resources we had in comparison with the financial elite (we did it with a lot of loan players, for example, which pissed the top club loving media off no end).
If I was to put forward a reason for why it didn't last much longer after that, I wouldn't spare the rod with Roberto. He gave the impression in that second season (and I said it at the time) of a man who thought this business was a piece of piss. It isn't. You have to get better each season and build more and more strength rather than rest on your laurels...which is what he did by his World Cup 2014 escapade and subsequent no show pre-season. That was compounded by going all out in the EL competition early doors rather than treat it like a nuisance until the KO stages (RM no doubt wanting the rest of Europe to see how much he'd developed himself and us).
All told though it goes back to something I feared right at the beginning when he arrived here: the task he had was monumental in that he was trying to shift a culture that'd grown up even before Moyes arrived where fans and players were edgy and comfortable only with a direct ball game. That proved insurmountable when we hit hard times and he wasn't a man capable of going to an alternative plan to get through those hard times. I get that: he was/is an idealist. It didn't come off for him though.
His legacy is that we could never have attracted Koeman with a squad pf players who just had a long ball game. Koeman might now state how he's managed to solidify and add stamina to the team as a defensive unit, but he knows that this team can play when they get on the ball, and its easier to come to a club and sort out the former than the latter.
If I was to put forward a reason for why it didn't last much longer after that, I wouldn't spare the rod with Roberto. He gave the impression in that second season (and I said it at the time) of a man who thought this business was a piece of piss. It isn't. You have to get better each season and build more and more strength rather than rest on your laurels...which is what he did by his World Cup 2014 escapade and subsequent no show pre-season. That was compounded by going all out in the EL competition early doors rather than treat it like a nuisance until the KO stages (RM no doubt wanting the rest of Europe to see how much he'd developed himself and us).
All told though it goes back to something I feared right at the beginning when he arrived here: the task he had was monumental in that he was trying to shift a culture that'd grown up even before Moyes arrived where fans and players were edgy and comfortable only with a direct ball game. That proved insurmountable when we hit hard times and he wasn't a man capable of going to an alternative plan to get through those hard times. I get that: he was/is an idealist. It didn't come off for him though.
His legacy is that we could never have attracted Koeman with a squad pf players who just had a long ball game. Koeman might now state how he's managed to solidify and add stamina to the team as a defensive unit, but he knows that this team can play when they get on the ball, and its easier to come to a club and sort out the former than the latter.
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Shame really as Martinez was a loveable guy, the pre season were we ended up playing celta at tranmere's ground was quite simply a disgrace. It laid down a very poor marker to begin the season, everyone who witnessed that mess could see we could go backwards.
I also like to highlight the fact that bobby was only asked to survive at Wigan, he also knew his best players would be sold, so as long as he did survive then its a case of maintaining the status quo. What he didn't realise is that Everton had higher ambitions and we crave/desperately need success immediately given our poor drought of trophies.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I actually thought he'd come in and give us a trophy rather than an ace PL season. Nearly did last season too.
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