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EU warns talks could fail after Johnson's 'go whistle' remarks

EU says Brexit talks could fail after Johnson's 'go whistle' remarks
Michel Barnier says so-called ‘divorce bill’ is indivisible from other parts of negotiation and payment is a matter of trust




Michel Barnier said: ‘How do you build a relationship based on trade, security … which is going to last, with a country with which you don’t have trust?’ Photograph: Virginia Mayo/APN
Dan Roberts in Brussels

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Wednesday 12 July 2017 12.34 BSTLast modified on Wednesday 12 July 2017 12.49 BST

The European Union has said the Brexit talks could be derailed by an escalating fight over money as it fired back at Boris Johnson for telling the EU leaders to “go whistle” if they expected Britain to pay a divorce bill for withdrawing from the bloc.

“I am not hearing any whistling, just a clock ticking,” said the EU negotiator Michel Barnier at a press conference in Brussels to preview the next round of talks, due to begin on Monday.

His London counterpart, the Brexit secretary, David Davis, has not yet presented a formal UK position on the scale of any financial settlement when Britain leaves, which some estimates have suggested could be as a high as €100bn.

But EU officials are adamant that failure to at least acknowledge the principle of ongoing budget obligations would prevent talks from proceeding at all and not allow any discussion of future relationship issues such as a free trade deal.

“The three priorities for the first phase are indivisible,” said Barnier, referring to the financial settlement, citizens’ rights and other separation issues such as the Northern Irish border. “Progress on one or two would not be sufficient in order for us to move on to the discussion of our future relationship.”

In some of the most strident exchanges of the Brexit process so far, Barnier said the issue was not simply a technical sequencing matter but went to the heart of whether the two sides could trust each other.

“How do you build a relationship based on trade, security … which is going to last, with a country with which you don’t have trust?” implored the French diplomat. “I am saying this from the bottom of my heart, I want us to build that relationship.”

Questioned in the House of Commons on Tuesday about whether Brussels should be told to “go whistle” for the money – a dismissive suggestion that its demands are futile – Johnson, the foreign secretary, replied: “I think that the sums that I have seen ... seem to me to be extortionate and I think ‘go whistle’ is an entirely appropriate expression.”

“People have used words like ransom,” added Barnier. “It’s not an exit bill, it’s not a punishment, it’s not a revenge, it’s simply settling accounts. It’s not easy and it might be expensive, but we are not asking for a single pound or euro more than they have legally agreed to provide. You can discuss this or that budget line, but they have to start by recognising that they have entered into commitments.”

The Tories megaphone diplomacy is looking more and more stupid by the day.

A part of me hopes that they make such an appalling mess of it that walking away from the whole sham is the most sensible thing to do, but then I'm not sure sensible is something this government do.
 
Very interesting twitter threads on the links between Vote Leave, DUP dark money, Trump Farage and Russia

Thread one



Thread two (links to Cambridge Analytica)



Thread 3 DUP Dark Money



How great would it be if the Trumps, Brexit and the Tories all fell down in one swoop.
 
Very interesting twitter threads on the links between Vote Leave, DUP dark money, Trump Farage and Russia

Thread one



Thread two (links to Cambridge Analytica)



Thread 3 DUP Dark Money



How great would it be if the Trumps, Brexit and the Tories all fell down in one swoop.


The thing is, Mcdonnell would go in for economic nationalism at the drop of a hat. We shouldn't fight right wing populism with left wing populism.
 
The thing is, Mcdonnell would go in for economic nationalism at the drop of a hat. We shouldn't fight right wing populism with left wing populism.

Oh yeah, populism very rarely ends well, but if there's proven links between all the above and it turns out to be as dodgy as her and Open Democracy think, then it should be fully investigated.
 
According to a study conducted by me, most people I know that voted for Brexit couldn't tell you the first think about the Norwegian relationship with the EU.

As I've said many times before, most people couldn't tell you the first thing about most of what they're asked to vote on. That's not a sneer on their intellects as much as most simply have better things to do with their time. When the electorate are generally so misinformed though, it does make the pedestal we place democracy on pretty wobbly imo.
 
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