Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Goat]

Still working out what it is mate......

You are either our frandel or a mutant Pete.

We like our frandels.

 

[Goat]

And Trumpely and his unfrandlich wall talk

Building a wall is not frandely.

 

[peteblue]

I've no idea mein Friend. Young @peteblue has decided he doesn't want to be frandely

I object.......when I was in the pub tonight I was very frandley to the barmaid......I think......

 

[orly]

You are either our frandel or a mutant Pete.

We like our frandels.

Consider this a line in the sand Peter.

Or a Friend in the sand.

Make of that what you will.

 

[JonS]

Certainly what people want to hear, but not in any way do her policies represent the "little people" nor will her geo-political bets put Britain in a better place in the world.



I am not a Corbyn supporter, but the benefit of the single market (not that he's a fan of that) complement the freedom of movement of people in producing superior economic performance, contribute to the Exchequor, and re-distribute wealth.

I'm not sure it does though @The Esk (as witnessed by the George Monbiot article that you linked to earlier). With some of the large corporations the only contribution to the exchequor is from their minimum wage employees while they pay minimum corporation tax.

While I agree the corporations provide a certain amount of economic vigour and employment, as far as I can see inequality has only increased and I can see precious little wealth redistribution under the single market.

 

[peteblue]

You are either our frandel or a mutant Pete.

We like our frandels.

I agree with you.....Friend.......

 

[peteblue]

Consider this a line in the sand Peter.

Or a Friend in the sand.

Make of that what you will.

I'm off to bed.......

 

[The Esk]

I'm not sure it does though @The Esk (as witnessed by the George Monbiot article that you linked to earlier). With some of the large corporations the only contribution to the exchequor is from their minimum wage employees while they pay minimum corporation tax.

While I agree the corporations provide a certain amount of economic vigour and employment, as far as I can see inequality has only increased and I can see precious little wealth redistribution under the single market.

The tax treatment of corporations is one of the greatest failures to date of the Single Market - I accept that readily. The movement of revenues and the attributing of costs within different areas of the EU in order to minimise corporation tax is totally wrong and needs addressing in my opinion.

My point related to individuals more so than corporations, where I see the freedom of movement as an efficient form of wealth distribution.

 

[SNova]

May has always been this way with speeches. Look at her immigration speeches and compare it to her immigration figures.

She's no Friend of mine that's for sure.

 

[davmaher]

Seriously though, what happened to the top class politicians in the US/UK?

May, Corbyn, Trump, Clinton... all completely useless.

TS Eliot had it right:

"We are the hollow men

We are the stuffed men

Leaning together

Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!

Our dried voices, when

We whisper together

Are quiet and meaningless

As wind in dry grass

Or rats' feet over broken glass

In our dry cellar"

 

[JonS]

The tax treatment of corporations is one of the greatest failures to date of the Single Market - I accept that readily. The movement of revenues and the attributing of costs within different areas of the EU in order to minimise corporation tax is totally wrong and needs addressing in my opinion.

My point related to individuals more so than corporations, where I see the freedom of movement as an efficient form of wealth distribution.

Fair enough mate. I see your point. I'm not a massive fan of wealth distribution by movement across the EU as I dont believe any countries are so badly off they really need to come here.

I'd rather have more freedom of movement here from countries outside the EU who really need some wealth distributed to them (and who I believe we still have some responsibility to after decades of colonialism and bomb dropping).

 

[JonS]

Seriously though, what happened to the top class politicians in the US/UK?

May, Corbyn, Trump, Clinton... all completely useless.

I quite like Corbyn. He just doesn't play 'the game'. Refreshingly free from ego too

 

[Prevenger17]

Is it really necessary to pick on a poster with different views to any one else's you do not like?
A mod pointed out to me if you come on a political thread though expect reactions , and be able to take it! -
another mod stated please do not get personal - all good advice if you give it then be prepared to take it, but I do not like to see posters just gang up on one person - after all it should be in the best possible taste as Kenny Everett used to say!

I'm not picking on the lad Joey, and he is well able to take it. In case you've forgotten, I support you in the Brexit thread and will generally stand up for unpopular ideas.

 

[Joey66]

It's just I have had Nazi swaztirs ensigns- nation soloiast post posters joked at me in this thread as I stated annoying , but I don't rise to the bate to be as bad as those posters take it as WUM

 

[Joey66]

May has always been this way with speeches. Look at her immigration speeches and compare it to her immigration figures.

She's no Friend of mine that's for sure.

I never thought she was a remainer either, kept her head down got the leadership with minimum fuss - no mug IMO,and I am no Tory!