Current Affairs EU In or Out

[ilikecheese]

No mate, it's the very definition of growing a pair. If it's concrete or guaranteed, anyone can do it.......

As an individual yes...but not an entire nation.

 

[peteblue]

As an individual yes...but not an entire nation.

It is just the same......the UK has done this before.......

 

[ilikecheese]

It is just the same......the UK has done this before.......

65 millions lives you're putting at risk with no plan at all.

 

[peteblue]

65 millions lives you're putting at risk with no plan at all.

One of whom is my Granddaughter. I don't gamble with my family.........

 

[ilikecheese]

One of whom is my Granddaughter. I don't gamble with my family.........

You most certainly did.......

 

[peteblue]

You most certainly did.......

Only in your opinion. I trust my people and country, we'll do ok.........

 

[ilikecheese]

Only in your opinion. I trust my people and country, we'll do ok.........

Awfully risky leap of faith IMO.

I kind think you and your countrymen were already doing ok TBH.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Do you not like our country or it's people. Have your much lauded Labour governments not prepared our population for the competition of life or the educational requirements needed.

Like many remainers, you seem to be in thrall to the Germans. Having had some years working alongside Siemens senior management, I do understand a bit of the German Industrial approach, in addition we employed about 20,000 people in Germany, and I do admire some of what they do.The reason for my question to you however was because, like many people, you are in awe about them, when in fact they are just like us, albeit with gruppenfurher tendencies.....

You decry my economic argument, when yours is carry on as usual, don't rock the boat, don't try anything new. Mine is let's try something different and put ourselves out there. The vernacular term is 'grow a pair'.......

If the argument is that Germans are just superior then that's more of a reason to leave since the EU has no desire for wealth transfer between nations and prevents or hopes to prevent using fiscal and monetary policy to level the playing field.

So Germany will simply be the ones in charge.

 

[peteblue]

If the argument is that Germans are just superior then that's more of a reason to leave since the EU has no desire for wealth transfer between nations and prevents or hopes to prevent using fiscal and monetary policy to level the playing field.

So Germany will simply be the ones in charge.

They already are. Poor old DC went cap in hand to try and get an agreement not to give newly entered immigrants benefits for 4 years, Germany have just decided to introduce a similar 5 year rule without asking anyone......

 

[MartyMcFly]

Austerity makes poor places even poorer.

Migrants add positively to the economy.

Yes?

God no. Austerity makes people who are reliant on the state poorer however it makes everyone else richer and that grows the economy.

Poor Migrants add to the GDP but take more out than they put back.

Migrant doctors put more in than they take out.

 

[MartyMcFly]

They already are. Poor old DC went cap in hand to try and get an agreement not to give newly entered immigrants benefits for 4 years, Germany have just decided to introduce a similar 5 year rule without asking anyone......

who would they ask... Themselves?

They're the ones in charge.

 

[peteblue]

who would they ask... Themselves?

They're the ones in charge.

Exactly, and no comment from the Eu.....

 

[joey_macmo]

God no. Austerity makes people who are reliant on the state poorer however it makes everyone else richer and that grows the economy.

Poor Migrants add to the GDP but take more out than they put back.

Migrant doctors put more in than they take out.

Despite starting with "god no" I don't think you've actually refuted what he's said there mate

 

[Joey66]

It is just the same......the UK has done this before.......

We are to old to @peteblue to argue or put our point over the Remoaners are just simply carrying on with the Remain campaign, and waiting for any bad news to latch on to no positivity for the UK as an independent country trading all over the world without being governed from Brussels!

 

[peteblue]

We are to old to @peteblue to argue or put our point over the Remoaners are just simply carrying on with the Remain campaign, and waiting for any bad news to latch on to no positivity for the UK as an independent country trading all over the world without being governed from Brussels!

I'm disappointed tbh Joey, I've been waiting for a really good argument from any of them, but not one, not one decent compelling reason why we should stay. As you say it's all moaning about 'it'll be too hard, what about the Germans, the pound has devalued, etc etc' ......oh and my favourite, we'll be in recession, no ifs or buts, we'll be in recession by the end of the year.....